From: Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: vatsa@in.ibm.com, ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net, xemul@sw.ru,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
menage@google.com, svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com, devel@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [ckrm-tech] [RFC][PATCH][2/4] Add RSS accounting and control
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:26:31 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <45D9906F.2090605@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070219032352.2856af36.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:39:33 +0530 Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>> Andrew Morton wrote:
>>> On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:07:44 +0530 Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> +void memctlr_mm_free(struct mm_struct *mm)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> + kfree(mm->counter);
>>>>>> +}
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +static inline void memctlr_mm_assign_container_direct(struct mm_struct *mm,
>>>>>> + struct container *cont)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> + write_lock(&mm->container_lock);
>>>>>> + mm->container = cont;
>>>>>> + write_unlock(&mm->container_lock);
>>>>>> +}
>>>>> More weird locking here.
>>>>>
>>>> The container field of the mm_struct is protected by a read write spin lock.
>>> That doesn't mean anything to me.
>>>
>>> What would go wrong if the above locking was simply removed? And how does
>>> the locking prevent that fault?
>>>
>> Some pages could charged to the wrong container. Apart from that I do not
>> see anything going bad (I'll double check that).
>
> Argh. Please, think about this.
>
Sure, I will. I guess I am short circuiting my thinking process :-)
> That locking *doesn't do anything*. Except for that one situation I
> described: some other holder of the lock reads mm->container twice inside
> the lock and requires that the value be the same both times (and that sort
> of code should be converted to take a local copy, so this locking here can
> be removed).
>
Yes, that makes sense.
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> + read_lock(&mm->container_lock);
>>>>>> + cont = mm->container;
>>>>>> + read_unlock(&mm->container_lock);
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> + if (!cont)
>>>>>> + goto done;
>>>>> And here. I mean, if there was a reason for taking the lock around that
>>>>> read, then testing `cont' outside the lock just invalidated that reason.
>>>>>
>>>> We took a consistent snapshot of cont. It cannot change outside the lock,
>>>> we check the value outside. I am sure I missed something.
>>> If it cannot change outside the lock then we don't need to take the lock!
>>>
>> We took a snapshot that we thought was consistent.
>
> Consistent with what? That's a single-word read inside that lock.
>
Yes, that makes sense.
>> We check for the value
>> outside. I guess there is no harm, the worst thing that could happen
>> is wrong accounting during mm->container changes (when a task changes
>> container).
>
> If container->lock is held when a task is removed from the
> container then yes, `cont' here can refer to a container to which the task
> no longer belongs.
>
> More worrisome is the potential for use-after-free. What prevents the
> pointer at mm->container from referring to freed memory after we're dropped
> the lock?
>
The container cannot be freed unless all tasks holding references to it are
gone, that would ensure that all mm->containers are pointing elsewhere and
never to a stale value.
I hope my short-circuited brain got this right :-)
--
Warm Regards,
Balbir Singh
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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: vatsa@in.ibm.com, ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net, xemul@sw.ru,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
menage@google.com, svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com, devel@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [ckrm-tech] [RFC][PATCH][2/4] Add RSS accounting and control
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:26:31 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <45D9906F.2090605@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070219032352.2856af36.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:39:33 +0530 Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>> Andrew Morton wrote:
>>> On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:07:44 +0530 Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> +void memctlr_mm_free(struct mm_struct *mm)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> + kfree(mm->counter);
>>>>>> +}
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +static inline void memctlr_mm_assign_container_direct(struct mm_struct *mm,
>>>>>> + struct container *cont)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> + write_lock(&mm->container_lock);
>>>>>> + mm->container = cont;
>>>>>> + write_unlock(&mm->container_lock);
>>>>>> +}
>>>>> More weird locking here.
>>>>>
>>>> The container field of the mm_struct is protected by a read write spin lock.
>>> That doesn't mean anything to me.
>>>
>>> What would go wrong if the above locking was simply removed? And how does
>>> the locking prevent that fault?
>>>
>> Some pages could charged to the wrong container. Apart from that I do not
>> see anything going bad (I'll double check that).
>
> Argh. Please, think about this.
>
Sure, I will. I guess I am short circuiting my thinking process :-)
> That locking *doesn't do anything*. Except for that one situation I
> described: some other holder of the lock reads mm->container twice inside
> the lock and requires that the value be the same both times (and that sort
> of code should be converted to take a local copy, so this locking here can
> be removed).
>
Yes, that makes sense.
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> + read_lock(&mm->container_lock);
>>>>>> + cont = mm->container;
>>>>>> + read_unlock(&mm->container_lock);
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> + if (!cont)
>>>>>> + goto done;
>>>>> And here. I mean, if there was a reason for taking the lock around that
>>>>> read, then testing `cont' outside the lock just invalidated that reason.
>>>>>
>>>> We took a consistent snapshot of cont. It cannot change outside the lock,
>>>> we check the value outside. I am sure I missed something.
>>> If it cannot change outside the lock then we don't need to take the lock!
>>>
>> We took a snapshot that we thought was consistent.
>
> Consistent with what? That's a single-word read inside that lock.
>
Yes, that makes sense.
>> We check for the value
>> outside. I guess there is no harm, the worst thing that could happen
>> is wrong accounting during mm->container changes (when a task changes
>> container).
>
> If container->lock is held when a task is removed from the
> container then yes, `cont' here can refer to a container to which the task
> no longer belongs.
>
> More worrisome is the potential for use-after-free. What prevents the
> pointer at mm->container from referring to freed memory after we're dropped
> the lock?
>
The container cannot be freed unless all tasks holding references to it are
gone, that would ensure that all mm->containers are pointing elsewhere and
never to a stale value.
I hope my short-circuited brain got this right :-)
--
Warm Regards,
Balbir Singh
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-02-19 11:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-02-19 6:50 [RFC][PATCH][0/4] Memory controller (RSS Control) Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 6:50 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 6:50 ` [RFC][PATCH][1/4] RSS controller setup Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 6:50 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 8:57 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 8:57 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 9:18 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-19 9:18 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-19 11:13 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 11:13 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 19:43 ` Matthew Helsley
2007-02-19 19:43 ` Matthew Helsley
2007-02-19 10:06 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 10:06 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 6:50 ` [RFC][PATCH][2/4] Add RSS accounting and control Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 6:50 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 8:58 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 8:58 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 10:37 ` [ckrm-tech] " Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 10:37 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 11:01 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 11:01 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 11:09 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 11:09 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 11:23 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 11:23 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 11:56 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2007-02-19 11:56 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 12:09 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-19 12:09 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-19 14:10 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 14:10 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 16:07 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-02-19 16:07 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-02-19 16:17 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 16:17 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-20 6:40 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-02-20 6:40 ` Vaidyanathan Srinivasan
2007-02-19 6:50 ` [RFC][PATCH][3/4] Add reclaim support Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 6:50 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 8:59 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 8:59 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 10:50 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 10:50 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 11:10 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 11:10 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 11:16 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 11:16 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 9:48 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-02-19 9:48 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2007-02-19 10:52 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 10:52 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 6:50 ` [RFC][PATCH][4/4] RSS controller documentation Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 6:50 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 8:54 ` [RFC][PATCH][0/4] Memory controller (RSS Control) Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 8:54 ` Andrew Morton
2007-02-19 9:06 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-19 9:06 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-19 9:50 ` [ckrm-tech] " Kirill Korotaev
2007-02-19 9:50 ` Kirill Korotaev
2007-02-19 9:50 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-19 9:50 ` Paul Menage
2007-02-19 10:24 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 10:24 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 10:39 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 10:39 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 9:16 ` Magnus Damm
2007-02-19 9:16 ` Magnus Damm
2007-02-19 10:45 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 10:45 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 11:56 ` Magnus Damm
2007-02-19 11:56 ` Magnus Damm
2007-02-19 14:07 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 14:07 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 10:00 ` Balbir Singh
2007-02-19 10:00 ` Balbir Singh
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