From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
To: tglx@linutronix.de
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>,
john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Pratap Subrahmanyam <pratap@vmware.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
Daniel Hecht <dhecht@vmware.com>, Daniel Arai <arai@vmware.com>,
Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
Virtualization Mailing List <virtualization@lists.osdl.org>
Subject: Re: hardwired VMI crap
Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:44:17 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <45F0ADE1.6060303@goop.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1173398690.24738.1108.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> Once you are there, you are near the point where you created a virtual
> architecture, which could run on any real architecture which gets
> supported by a hypervisor backend.
>
> I'd love that :)
>
Sure. But not even hypervisors. Once we sort out pv_ops's SMP support,
it will be this >< close to covering everything in the subarch
interface. So we can drop all that goo in favour of paravirt_ops, and
make a single kernel that will boot on everything from voyager to
numa-q! How's that for world peace?
> I know it is tricky to combine this with the upcoming hardware
> virtualization support. But it's at least a worthwhile thought
> experiment.
>
Well, in many ways that's a step backwards. The upside is that its
easier to get away with simply emulating the some particular piece
hardware, but it does lose a lot of opportunities for interesting
flexibility and optimisations.
But I anticipate we'll get a xen-hvm pv_ops backend, for running under
Xen with a virtualizing cpu. It will probably look a lot like kvm's
pv_ops backend.
J
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-03-09 0:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 169+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-06 6:52 + stupid-hack-to-make-mainline-build.patch added to -mm tree akpm
[not found] ` <45ED16D2.3000202@vmware.com>
[not found] ` <20070306084258.GA15745@elte.hu>
[not found] ` <20070306084647.GA16280@elte.hu>
2007-03-06 8:55 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-06 10:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-06 21:07 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-06 21:07 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-06 22:21 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-06 22:21 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-06 21:32 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-06 23:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 0:24 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 0:35 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 0:49 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 0:53 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 1:18 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 2:08 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 8:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 17:41 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 17:41 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 17:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07 17:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07 18:03 ` James Morris
2007-03-07 18:03 ` James Morris
2007-03-07 18:35 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 18:35 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 0:45 ` Alan Cox
2007-03-08 0:45 ` Alan Cox
2007-03-07 17:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07 17:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07 18:28 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 18:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 18:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 18:11 ` James Morris
2007-03-07 18:11 ` James Morris
2007-03-07 18:56 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 19:05 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 19:49 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 20:11 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 20:49 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 20:49 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 21:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 21:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 20:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 20:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 21:02 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 21:08 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 21:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 21:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 21:14 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 21:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 21:33 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 22:05 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 23:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 23:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 23:25 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-07 23:36 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 23:40 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-07 23:40 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 18:30 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 18:30 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 0:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-08 1:01 ` Daniel Arai
2007-03-08 1:01 ` Daniel Arai
2007-03-08 1:23 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 1:23 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 7:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-08 7:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-08 8:01 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 8:01 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 18:24 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 18:44 ` Daniel Arai
2007-03-08 19:14 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 19:14 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 19:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 19:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 19:42 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 19:47 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 19:47 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 19:52 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 20:10 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 20:18 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 20:18 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 20:23 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 20:23 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 20:33 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 20:42 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 20:42 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 20:42 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 20:42 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 21:45 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-08 21:45 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-08 19:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 19:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 9:10 ` hardwired VMI crap Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 10:06 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 11:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-08 20:46 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 20:46 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 21:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 22:17 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 22:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 22:39 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-16 10:12 ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-08 21:15 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 21:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 21:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 21:43 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-08 22:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 22:36 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 23:39 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 23:39 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 23:55 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 23:55 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-09 0:10 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-09 0:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-09 0:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-09 0:22 ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-09 0:22 ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-09 0:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-09 0:28 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-09 0:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-09 0:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-09 0:44 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge [this message]
2007-03-08 22:31 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 22:31 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 21:39 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-08 21:39 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-08 22:58 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 22:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 23:39 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 18:35 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 18:35 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-07 23:33 ` + stupid-hack-to-make-mainline-build.patch added to -mm tree Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 23:52 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-08 0:19 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 0:19 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 0:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-08 0:38 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 0:38 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 20:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 21:07 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 21:07 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 21:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 21:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 21:34 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 22:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 22:17 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-07 22:17 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-07 22:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 22:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 22:28 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 22:28 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-08 8:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 8:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 8:15 ` Keir Fraser
2007-03-08 8:15 ` Keir Fraser
2007-03-08 8:41 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 10:26 ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-07 21:42 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 21:42 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 22:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 22:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 5:10 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 0:40 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 0:42 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 1:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 1:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 1:44 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 1:44 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 7:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
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