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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Virtualization Mailing List <virtualization@lists.osdl.org>,
	john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: + stupid-hack-to-make-mainline-build.patch added to -mm tree
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 18:49:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070307174957.GA31371@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45EEF966.6060902@goop.org>


* Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org> wrote:

> Xen, for example, uses the tsc as the principle timebase in the
> hypervisor interface. [...]

ugh. Please take it from me: i've watched the Linux time code walk its 
long, rocky 10+ years road. One of the first mistakes was when we made 
the TSC the center of the i386-time universe. (incidentally, it was me 
who did the first steps of that, as a rookie kernel hacker) We got cured 
out of that in v2.6.19, v2.6.20 and v2.6.21. Granted, Xen is only at the 
beginning of that same road. Meet in another 10 years? ;)

	Ingo

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, Dan Hecht <dhecht@vmware.com>,
	Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, ak@suse.de,
	Virtualization Mailing List <virtualization@lists.osdl.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: + stupid-hack-to-make-mainline-build.patch added to -mm tree
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 18:49:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070307174957.GA31371@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45EEF966.6060902@goop.org>


* Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org> wrote:

> Xen, for example, uses the tsc as the principle timebase in the
> hypervisor interface. [...]

ugh. Please take it from me: i've watched the Linux time code walk its 
long, rocky 10+ years road. One of the first mistakes was when we made 
the TSC the center of the i386-time universe. (incidentally, it was me 
who did the first steps of that, as a rookie kernel hacker) We got cured 
out of that in v2.6.19, v2.6.20 and v2.6.21. Granted, Xen is only at the 
beginning of that same road. Meet in another 10 years? ;)

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-07 17:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 169+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-06  6:52 + stupid-hack-to-make-mainline-build.patch added to -mm tree akpm
     [not found] ` <45ED16D2.3000202@vmware.com>
     [not found]   ` <20070306084258.GA15745@elte.hu>
     [not found]     ` <20070306084647.GA16280@elte.hu>
2007-03-06  8:55       ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-06 10:59         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-06 21:07           ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-06 21:07             ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-06 22:21             ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-06 22:21               ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-06 21:32               ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-06 23:53             ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07  0:24               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07  0:35                 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07  0:49                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07  0:53                     ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07  1:18                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07  2:08                         ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07  8:37                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 17:41                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 17:41                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 17:49                               ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-03-07 17:49                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07 18:03                                 ` James Morris
2007-03-07 18:03                                   ` James Morris
2007-03-07 18:35                                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 18:35                                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08  0:45                                   ` Alan Cox
2007-03-08  0:45                                     ` Alan Cox
2007-03-07 17:52                               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07 17:52                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-07 18:28                                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 18:53                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 18:53                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 18:11                               ` James Morris
2007-03-07 18:11                                 ` James Morris
2007-03-07 18:56                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 19:05                                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 19:49                                   ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 20:11                                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 20:49                                       ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 20:49                                         ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 21:14                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 21:14                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 20:57                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 20:57                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 21:02                                         ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 21:08                                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 21:19                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 21:19                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 21:14                                             ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 21:21                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 21:33                                       ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 22:05                                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 23:05                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 23:05                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 23:25                                           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-07 23:36                                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 23:40                                               ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-07 23:40                                                 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 18:30                                                 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 18:30                                                   ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08  0:22                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-08  1:01                                               ` Daniel Arai
2007-03-08  1:01                                                 ` Daniel Arai
2007-03-08  1:23                                                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08  1:23                                                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08  7:02                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-08  7:28                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-08  8:01                                                   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08  8:01                                                     ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 18:24                                                 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 18:44                                                   ` Daniel Arai
2007-03-08 19:14                                                     ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 19:14                                                       ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 19:17                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 19:17                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 19:42                                                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 19:47                                                     ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 19:47                                                       ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 19:52                                                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 20:10                                                         ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 20:18                                                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 20:18                                                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 20:23                                                             ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 20:23                                                               ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 20:33                                                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 20:42                                                                 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 20:42                                                                   ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 20:42                                                                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 20:42                                                                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 21:45                                                                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-08 21:45                                                                   ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-08 19:54                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 19:54                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08  9:10                                             ` hardwired VMI crap Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 10:06                                               ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 11:09                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-08 20:46                                                   ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 20:46                                                     ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 21:13                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 22:17                                                       ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 22:33                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 22:39                                                           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-16 10:12                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-08 21:15                                                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 21:34                                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 21:34                                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 21:43                                                         ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-08 22:30                                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 22:36                                                             ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 23:39                                                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 23:39                                                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 23:55                                                           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 23:55                                                             ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-09  0:10                                                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-09  0:29                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-09  0:29                                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-09  0:22                                                             ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-09  0:22                                                               ` Daniel Walker
2007-03-09  0:28                                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-09  0:28                                                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-09  0:04                                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-09  0:04                                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-09  0:44                                                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 22:31                                                       ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 22:31                                                         ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 21:39                                                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-08 21:39                                                       ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-08 22:58                                                       ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 22:42                                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08 23:39                                                       ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-08 18:35                                                 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-08 18:35                                                   ` Chris Wright
2007-03-07 23:33                                           ` + stupid-hack-to-make-mainline-build.patch added to -mm tree Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 23:52                                             ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-08  0:19                                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08  0:19                                                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08  0:35                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-08  0:38                                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08  0:38                                                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 20:40                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 21:07                                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 21:07                                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07 21:40                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 21:40                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 21:34                                     ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 22:14                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 22:17                                         ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-07 22:17                                           ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-07 22:31                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 22:31                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 22:28                                             ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 22:28                                               ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-08  8:01                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08  8:01                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-08  8:15                                     ` Keir Fraser
2007-03-08  8:15                                       ` Keir Fraser
2007-03-08  8:41                                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-08 10:26                                     ` Rusty Russell
2007-03-07 21:42                                 ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 21:42                                   ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07 22:07                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07 22:07                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07  5:10                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-07  0:40                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07  0:42               ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07  1:22                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07  1:22                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2007-03-07  1:44                   ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07  1:44                     ` Dan Hecht
2007-03-07  7:48                     ` Thomas Gleixner

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