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From: Dmitry Krivoschekov <dmitry.krivoschekov@gmail.com>
To: Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa@nokia.com>
Cc: linux-pm@lists.osdl.org,
	Dominik Brodowski <linux@dominikbrodowski.net>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: Alternative Concept
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:44:33 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45FFE541.60709@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1174394360.25744.45.camel@Dogbert.NOE.nokia.com>

Igor Stoppa wrote:
>
>> So, in my thinking a devoted entity should exist to deal with such questions in 
>> regard to such shared pm resources. This entity is policy manager. Thus I see a 
>> need in an API for policy managers to be presented.
>
> Your policy manager becomes too invasive and even _mandatory_ because it
> becomes the only way to perform resource management.
>
> With a decentralised approach, instead, only people who _want_ to use
> the policy manager can include it, while otherwise they rely on the
> automatic handling.
>
Seems you both are considering  two opposite extremities. Why don't
consider
things as its nature? Every computer system  has  a subsystem 
delivering resources
to its elements, i.e subsystem delivering clocks - clock subsystem,
subsystem delivering
power - power subsystem. So you need to corresponding kernel  subsystems
to control that couple.
That is, there is a driver layer, there is clock/voltage subsytems and
eventually there is a policy
manager, i.e clock/volatge subsystem becomes a dealer for different
devices and also it becomes
a dealer for user space applications (i.e. policy managers).

As a thought, we already use an irq subsystem that provides resource -
interrupt, some ideas might be taken
there.
Thanks,
Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-20 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-24  1:23 [RFC] CPUFreq PowerOP integration, Intro 0/3 Eugeny S. Mints
2006-10-07  2:36 ` Alternative Concept [Was: Re: [RFC] CPUFreq PowerOP integration, Intro 0/3] Dominik Brodowski
2006-10-07  3:15   ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-10-08  7:16   ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-12 15:38     ` Mark Gross
2006-10-12 16:02       ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-10-16 21:56         ` Mark Gross
2006-10-17 21:40           ` Matthew Locke
2006-10-12 16:48       ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-12 17:12         ` Vitaly Wool
2006-10-12 17:23           ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-09 18:21   ` Mark Gross
2006-10-26  3:06     ` Dominik Brodowski
2006-10-12 22:43   ` Eugeny S. Mints
2006-10-13 10:55     ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-16 21:44       ` Mark Gross
2006-10-17  8:26         ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-26  3:05     ` Dominik Brodowski
2007-03-13  0:57   ` Alternative Concept Matthew Locke
2007-03-13 11:08     ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-13 20:34       ` Mark Gross
2007-03-14  2:30         ` Ikhwan Lee
2007-03-14 10:43           ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-14 17:19             ` David Brownell
2007-03-14 18:12               ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-14 18:45                 ` David Brownell
2007-03-15  9:53               ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-15 13:04                 ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-16  2:21                   ` David Brownell
2007-03-16  3:56                     ` Ikhwan Lee
2007-03-16  6:17                       ` David Brownell
2007-03-19  2:27                         ` Ikhwan Lee
2007-03-19  6:07                           ` David Brownell
2007-03-16 13:06                     ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-16 18:03                       ` David Brownell
2007-03-18 20:25                         ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-19  4:04                           ` David Brownell
2007-03-20  0:03                             ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20  8:07                               ` David Brownell
2007-03-20  9:45                                 ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 10:30                                   ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-20 12:13                                     ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-20 12:39                                       ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-20 13:44                                         ` Dmitry Krivoschekov [this message]
2007-03-20 21:03                                         ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 13:07                                     ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 13:52                                       ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-20 14:58                                         ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 15:36                                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 19:16                                             ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 20:45                                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 22:04                                                 ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 22:06                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-20 23:29                                                     ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 15:36                                           ` Igor Stoppa
2007-03-20 19:17                                             ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 20:17                                             ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 20:21                                       ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 19:58                                   ` David Brownell
2007-03-24  0:47                                     ` charging batteries from USB [was: Re: Alternative Concept] Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-24  1:17                                       ` David Brownell
2007-03-24  1:48                                         ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-24  2:35                                           ` David Brownell
2007-03-24 10:20                                             ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-24  8:36                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2007-03-14  3:19       ` Alternative Concept Dominik Brodowski
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-03-14 22:08 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-14 23:23 ` David Brownell
2007-03-15  7:25   ` Ikhwan Lee
2007-03-15  8:14     ` Amit Kucheria
2007-03-15 10:55       ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-15 10:46     ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-15 10:33   ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-15 13:21 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-15 13:29 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-15 23:07 ` David Brownell
2007-03-15 14:00 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-15 14:38 ` Eugeny S. Mints
2007-03-15 17:33 ` Woodruff, Richard
2007-03-19 14:12 Scott E. Preece
2007-03-20  7:56 ` David Brownell
2007-03-20 14:26   ` Amit Kucheria
2007-03-20 15:08     ` Dmitry Krivoschekov
2007-03-20 17:04       ` David Brownell

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