[lm-sensors] MSI K9N4 SLI-F sensors-detect says use

[lm-sensors] MSI K9N4 SLI-F sensors-detect says use

[Jan van Tiggelen]

Curt / David,

Would it be of any help if you get a full spec of the motherboard, including
the schematics? I have access to that.

That way you don't need to take the server apart, and you can be sure that
the chip is used exactly for what purpose you would expect.

Kind regards,

Jan van Tiggelen


-----Original Message-----
From: lm-sensors-bounces@lm-sensors.org
[mailto:lm-sensors-bounces at lm-sensors.org] On Behalf Of David Hubbard
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:06 PM
To: Curt Blank; lm-sensors at lm-sensors.org
Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] MSI K9N4 SLI-F sensors-detect says use
w83627ehfbut it won't load

Hi Curt,

On 3/20/07, Curt Blank <curt at curtronics.com> wrote:
> Ug. Yes I can do that and I will. I was just thinking in order to take a
> decent picture I'm going to have to disconnect everything and this server
> has a lot. I'll do that tonight. And thanks for the quick reply.
>
> Just for grins yesterday I tried loading all the Winbond drivers and I got
> a number to load successfully but there were no sensors. Unless having
> multiple loaded causes a conflict. i2c_dev might not have been loaded
> though, if that makes a difference.
>
> -Curt

You may be able to find a picture of the motherboard online...

You also don't have to take a picture of the motherboard if you can
identify which is the hardware monitoring chip...

For example: you should be able to find the CPU. It will be close to
the Northbridge. There might be a southbridge / ATA controller on the
board. There will be very few other large chips. So just google all
the letters and numbers on each chip and you should be able to tell
what each does.

Post results here. :-)

David

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[lm-sensors] MSI K9N4 SLI-F sensors-detect says use

[David Hubbard]

Hi Jan,

On 3/20/07, Jan van Tiggelen <den_tichel at zonnet.nl> wrote:
> Curt / David,
>
> Would it be of any help if you get a full spec of the motherboard, including
> the schematics? I have access to that.
>
> That way you don't need to take the server apart, and you can be sure that
> the chip is used exactly for what purpose you would expect.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jan van Tiggelen

Yes, that would be the best way.

David

[lm-sensors] MSI K9N4 SLI-F sensors-detect says use

[Curt Blank]

Jan/David

Thanks! Man you guys are great.

I built this server so I am familiar with the MB but it sounds like Jan 
has the answer.

I did try installing all the Winbond drivers one at a time but no luck.

-Curt

On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, David Hubbard wrote:

> Hi Jan,
> 
> On 3/20/07, Jan van Tiggelen <den_tichel at zonnet.nl> wrote:
> > Curt / David,
> >
> > Would it be of any help if you get a full spec of the motherboard, including
> > the schematics? I have access to that.
> >
> > That way you don't need to take the server apart, and you can be sure that
> > the chip is used exactly for what purpose you would expect.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Jan van Tiggelen
> 
> Yes, that would be the best way.
> 
> David
> 
> 

[lm-sensors] MSI K9N4 SLI-F sensors-detect says use

[Jan van Tiggelen]

OK, the question is out to MSI. I expect it to take up to about a day or 2
before we have the full answer.

Will post back to you in a personal message when I get the schematics.

Kind regards,

Jan van Tiggelen


-----Original Message-----
From: Curt Blank [mailto:curt at curtronics.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:44 PM
To: David Hubbard
Cc: Jan van Tiggelen; lm-sensors at lm-sensors.org
Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] MSI K9N4 SLI-F sensors-detect says use
w83627ehfbut it won't load

Jan/David

Thanks! Man you guys are great.

I built this server so I am familiar with the MB but it sounds like Jan 
has the answer.

I did try installing all the Winbond drivers one at a time but no luck.

-Curt

On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, David Hubbard wrote:

> Hi Jan,
> 
> On 3/20/07, Jan van Tiggelen <den_tichel at zonnet.nl> wrote:
> > Curt / David,
> >
> > Would it be of any help if you get a full spec of the motherboard,
including
> > the schematics? I have access to that.
> >
> > That way you don't need to take the server apart, and you can be sure
that
> > the chip is used exactly for what purpose you would expect.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Jan van Tiggelen
> 
> Yes, that would be the best way.
> 
> David
> 
> 

[lm-sensors] MSI K9N4 SLI-F sensors-detect says use

[Curt Blank]

In the meantime....

Winbond W83627DHG

http://www.curtronics.com/Pics/MSI_K9N4_SLI-F_Winbond.jpg

How's that for Hi-Res. Couldn't use a flash and lighting was a bitch 
(running server).

-Curt

Jan van Tiggelen wrote:

>OK, the question is out to MSI. I expect it to take up to about a day or 2
>before we have the full answer.
>
>Will post back to you in a personal message when I get the schematics.
>
>Kind regards,
>
>Jan van Tiggelen
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Curt Blank [mailto:curt at curtronics.com] 
>Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:44 PM
>To: David Hubbard
>Cc: Jan van Tiggelen; lm-sensors at lm-sensors.org
>Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] MSI K9N4 SLI-F sensors-detect says use
>w83627ehfbut it won't load
>
>Jan/David
>
>Thanks! Man you guys are great.
>
>I built this server so I am familiar with the MB but it sounds like Jan 
>has the answer.
>
>I did try installing all the Winbond drivers one at a time but no luck.
>
>-Curt
>
>On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, David Hubbard wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi Jan,
>>
>>On 3/20/07, Jan van Tiggelen <den_tichel at zonnet.nl> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Curt / David,
>>>
>>>Would it be of any help if you get a full spec of the motherboard,
>>>      
>>>
>including
>  
>
>>>the schematics? I have access to that.
>>>
>>>That way you don't need to take the server apart, and you can be sure
>>>      
>>>
>that
>  
>
>>>the chip is used exactly for what purpose you would expect.
>>>
>>>Kind regards,
>>>
>>>Jan van Tiggelen
>>>      
>>>
>>Yes, that would be the best way.
>>
>>David
>>
>>
>>    
>>

[lm-sensors] MSI K9N4 SLI-F sensors-detect says use

[Curt Blank]

Well that explains it. In kernel 2.6.21 and I have 2.6.16.

If I'm reading things right that's not even a stable kernel yet. Any 
chance of me being able to backport it to the 2.6.16 w83627ehf driver 
for my use?

Looks like I'm slightly on the bleeding edge.

-Curt

Curt Blank wrote:

>In the meantime....
>
>Winbond W83627DHG
>
>http://www.curtronics.com/Pics/MSI_K9N4_SLI-F_Winbond.jpg
>
>How's that for Hi-Res. Couldn't use a flash and lighting was a bitch 
>(running server).
>
>-Curt
>
>Jan van Tiggelen wrote:
>
>  
>
>>OK, the question is out to MSI. I expect it to take up to about a day or 2
>>before we have the full answer.
>>
>>Will post back to you in a personal message when I get the schematics.
>>
>>Kind regards,
>>
>>Jan van Tiggelen
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Curt Blank [mailto:curt at curtronics.com] 
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:44 PM
>>To: David Hubbard
>>Cc: Jan van Tiggelen; lm-sensors at lm-sensors.org
>>Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] MSI K9N4 SLI-F sensors-detect says use
>>w83627ehfbut it won't load
>>
>>Jan/David
>>
>>Thanks! Man you guys are great.
>>
>>I built this server so I am familiar with the MB but it sounds like Jan 
>>has the answer.
>>
>>I did try installing all the Winbond drivers one at a time but no luck.
>>
>>-Curt
>>
>>On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, David Hubbard wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hi Jan,
>>>
>>>On 3/20/07, Jan van Tiggelen <den_tichel at zonnet.nl> wrote:
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Curt / David,
>>>>
>>>>Would it be of any help if you get a full spec of the motherboard,
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>including
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>the schematics? I have access to that.
>>>>
>>>>That way you don't need to take the server apart, and you can be sure
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>that
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>>the chip is used exactly for what purpose you would expect.
>>>>
>>>>Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>>Jan van Tiggelen
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Yes, that would be the best way.
>>>
>>>David
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>
>
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[lm-sensors] MSI K9N4 SLI-F sensors-detect says use

[David Hubbard]

Hi Curt,

I have tested the w83627ehf.c file from 2.6.21-rc1 in kernels as old
as 2.6.17. I have a stock 2.6.16 kernel I could test the driver in,
but didn't expect anyone to need it. Is there any way you could
upgrade to 2.6.18? That kernel is pretty popular.

David

On 3/20/07, Curt Blank <Curt.Blank at curtronics.com> wrote:
> Well that explains it. In kernel 2.6.21 and I have 2.6.16.
>
> If I'm reading things right that's not even a stable kernel yet. Any
> chance of me being able to backport it to the 2.6.16 w83627ehf driver
> for my use?
>
> Looks like I'm slightly on the bleeding edge.
>
> -Curt
>
> Curt Blank wrote:
>
> >In the meantime....
> >
> >Winbond W83627DHG
> >
> >http://www.curtronics.com/Pics/MSI_K9N4_SLI-F_Winbond.jpg
> >
> >How's that for Hi-Res. Couldn't use a flash and lighting was a bitch
> >(running server).
> >
> >-Curt
> >
> >Jan van Tiggelen wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>OK, the question is out to MSI. I expect it to take up to about a day or 2
> >>before we have the full answer.
> >>
> >>Will post back to you in a personal message when I get the schematics.
> >>
> >>Kind regards,
> >>
> >>Jan van Tiggelen
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Curt Blank [mailto:curt at curtronics.com]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:44 PM
> >>To: David Hubbard
> >>Cc: Jan van Tiggelen; lm-sensors at lm-sensors.org
> >>Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] MSI K9N4 SLI-F sensors-detect says use
> >>w83627ehfbut it won't load
> >>
> >>Jan/David
> >>
> >>Thanks! Man you guys are great.
> >>
> >>I built this server so I am familiar with the MB but it sounds like Jan
> >>has the answer.
> >>
> >>I did try installing all the Winbond drivers one at a time but no luck.
> >>
> >>-Curt
> >>
> >>On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, David Hubbard wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi Jan,
> >>>
> >>>On 3/20/07, Jan van Tiggelen <den_tichel at zonnet.nl> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Curt / David,
> >>>>
> >>>>Would it be of any help if you get a full spec of the motherboard,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>including
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>the schematics? I have access to that.
> >>>>
> >>>>That way you don't need to take the server apart, and you can be sure
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>that
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>the chip is used exactly for what purpose you would expect.
> >>>>
> >>>>Kind regards,
> >>>>
> >>>>Jan van Tiggelen
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>Yes, that would be the best way.
> >>>
> >>>David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
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[lm-sensors] MSI K9N4 SLI-F sensors-detect says use

[den_tichel at zonnet.nl]

Hi Curt,

Based on the schematics I've sent you, it seems that there is some 
miscomputation.

>
> So, based on your feedback of voltage levels, and with the schematics of the
> MSI K9N4 SLI-F and the pre-set definitions of the W83627EHF calculations I
> could suggest for sensors.conf:
>
> chip "w83627dhg-*"
>
> labels:
> label in0 "VCore"
> label in1 "+12V"
> label in2 "5V"
> label in3 "-12V"
> label in5 "AVCC"
> label in7 "VSB"
> label in8 "VBAT"
>
> computations:
> compute in1 @*(1+(56/10)), @/(1+(56/10))
> compute in2 @*(1+(22/10)), @/(1+(22/10))
> compute in3 -@*(1+(56/10)), -@/(1+(56/10))
>
> Let me know if this gives you the correct readings. If
> it's not, I'll try and get the values for Rin and Rf.
>
> Here's the results of plugging in your equations:
>
> w83627dhg-isa-0a10
> Adapter: ISA adapter
> VCore:     +1.23 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +1.74 V)
> +12V:     +12.30 V  (min =  +6.97 V, max =  +5.23 V)
> 5V:       +10.44 V  (min =  +7.48 V, max = +10.75 V)
> -12V:     -21.54 V  (min =  -5.91 V, max = -18.27 V)
> in4:       +1.54 V  (min =  +1.23 V, max =  +0.02 V)
> AVCC:      +1.46 V  (min =  +0.24 V, max =  +0.78 V)
> in6:       +1.61 V  (min =  +0.17 V, max =  +0.53 V)
> VSB:       +3.26 V  (min =  +2.18 V, max =  +2.26 V)
> VBAT:      +2.99 V  (min =  +2.08 V, max =  +0.86 V)
>
> -Curt
>

So right now I could suggest a different computation for:

compute in3 -@*(1+(232/10)), -@/(1+(232/10))

The calculation for the 5V is OK, but then again... in2 is not 5V. So 
now I'm guessing in6 is 5V, so change your in2 labels and computation 
to in6.

As a last challenge:
How are your system temps displayed? After all, they are connected 
through thermal resistors on SYS_TMP and CPU_TMP.

Kind regards,

Jan van Tiggelen