From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: David Lang <david.lang@digitalinsight.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org,
paulus@samba.org, dwmw2@infradead.org,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Stop pmac_zilog from abusing 8250's device numbers.
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 09:07:16 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4613CD34.8080509@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0704031817020.21680@qynat.qvtvafvgr.pbz>
David Lang wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Apr 2007, Alan Cox wrote:
>
>>>> You don't get machines with 64 ethernet ports on add-in cards. There
>>>> are
>>>> good reasons for the naming schemes in use.
>>>
>>> I've seen machines offering up to 48, what's the magic number that
>>> makes you
>>> need to chagne nameing schemes?
>>
>> Have you tried working with 48 ports when they are not numbered 0-47 or
>> in some logical fashion ?
>
> no, but that's what we're wanting with serial ports as well. a system
> with 50 serial ports should have them numbered 0-49, not typea0-5,
> typeb0-39, typec0-5
>
I would actually disagree. I have systems with multiport serial cards
installed, and I much prefer those to be named differently. Not only do
I not have to worry about the same problem I *constantly* have with
onboard Ethernet cards -- whoops I just installed an expansion card and
suddenly my onboard NIC is eth2! -- but the expansion serial ports tend
to be *different.*
For example, on my serial server, the Cyclades ports (ttyC*) use RJ-45
connections from an external expansion module, whereas of course the
builtin ones (ttyS*) use DB-9s.
-hpa
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: David Lang <david.lang@digitalinsight.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
dwmw2@infradead.org, flar@allandria.com, paulus@samba.org,
linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Stop pmac_zilog from abusing 8250's device numbers.
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 09:07:16 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4613CD34.8080509@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0704031817020.21680@qynat.qvtvafvgr.pbz>
David Lang wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Apr 2007, Alan Cox wrote:
>
>>>> You don't get machines with 64 ethernet ports on add-in cards. There
>>>> are
>>>> good reasons for the naming schemes in use.
>>>
>>> I've seen machines offering up to 48, what's the magic number that
>>> makes you
>>> need to chagne nameing schemes?
>>
>> Have you tried working with 48 ports when they are not numbered 0-47 or
>> in some logical fashion ?
>
> no, but that's what we're wanting with serial ports as well. a system
> with 50 serial ports should have them numbered 0-49, not typea0-5,
> typeb0-39, typec0-5
>
I would actually disagree. I have systems with multiport serial cards
installed, and I much prefer those to be named differently. Not only do
I not have to worry about the same problem I *constantly* have with
onboard Ethernet cards -- whoops I just installed an expansion card and
suddenly my onboard NIC is eth2! -- but the expansion serial ports tend
to be *different.*
For example, on my serial server, the Cyclades ports (ttyC*) use RJ-45
connections from an external expansion module, whereas of course the
builtin ones (ttyS*) use DB-9s.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-04 16:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 189+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-03 14:25 [PATCH] Stop pmac_zilog from abusing 8250's device numbers David Woodhouse
2007-04-03 20:37 ` Brad Boyer
2007-04-03 22:58 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-03 23:14 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-03 23:14 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-03 23:28 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-03 23:28 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-03 21:29 ` Brad Boyer
2007-04-03 21:29 ` Brad Boyer
2007-04-03 23:57 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-03 23:57 ` David Woodhouse
[not found] ` <200704032210 02.GA13210@cynthia.pants.nu>
2007-04-03 22:10 ` Brad Boyer
2007-04-03 22:10 ` Brad Boyer
2007-04-04 0:54 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-04 0:54 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-03 23:09 ` Brad Boyer
2007-04-03 23:09 ` Brad Boyer
2007-04-04 1:38 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 1:38 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 2:05 ` Chris Adams
2007-04-04 2:10 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-04 2:10 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-04-04 1:57 ` David Lang
2007-04-04 1:57 ` David Lang
2007-04-04 8:51 ` Russell King
2007-04-04 8:51 ` Russell King
2007-04-04 9:48 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-04 9:48 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-04 16:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-04 16:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-04 16:22 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-04 16:22 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-04 16:34 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-04 16:34 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-04 17:38 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-04 17:38 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-04 1:16 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 1:16 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 1:28 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 1:28 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 1:07 ` David Lang
2007-04-04 1:07 ` David Lang
2007-04-04 1:44 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 1:44 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 1:23 ` David Lang
2007-04-04 1:23 ` David Lang
2007-04-04 1:32 ` David Lang
2007-04-04 1:32 ` David Lang
2007-04-04 16:07 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2007-04-04 16:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-04 17:50 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-04 17:50 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-04 1:50 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 1:50 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 11:14 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 11:14 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 12:20 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-04-04 12:20 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-04-04 1:48 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 1:48 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 3:07 ` Gerhard Mack
2007-04-04 3:07 ` Gerhard Mack
2007-04-11 16:30 ` Benny Amorsen
2007-04-11 16:30 ` Benny Amorsen
2007-04-12 15:34 ` Roland Dreier
2007-04-13 2:45 ` Gerhard Mack
2007-04-13 2:45 ` Gerhard Mack
2007-04-13 2:24 ` David Lang
2007-04-13 2:24 ` David Lang
2007-04-13 8:09 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-13 8:09 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-04 0:02 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 0:02 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 0:12 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-04 0:12 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-03 22:14 ` Brad Boyer
2007-04-03 22:14 ` Brad Boyer
2007-04-04 1:13 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-04 1:13 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-04 1:17 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 1:17 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 1:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-04 1:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-04 0:01 ` [PATCH v2] " David Woodhouse
2007-04-04 0:01 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-04 1:25 ` [PATCH] " Alan Cox
2007-04-04 1:25 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 4:20 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-04 4:20 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-04 5:19 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-04 5:19 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-04 5:50 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 5:50 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 7:04 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-04 7:04 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-04 13:43 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-04-04 13:43 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2007-04-04 7:52 ` Russell King
2007-04-04 7:52 ` Russell King
2007-04-04 8:41 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 8:41 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 5:53 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-04 5:53 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-04 6:03 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-04 6:03 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-04 6:31 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-04 6:31 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-04 14:19 ` [PATCH v3] Stop pmac_zilog from abusing 8250's device numbers; optionally David Woodhouse
2007-04-04 14:19 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-04 23:48 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-04 23:48 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-05 12:45 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-05 12:45 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-05 22:53 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-05 22:53 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-05 22:59 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-05 22:59 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-05 14:31 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2007-04-05 14:31 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2007-04-05 14:47 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-05 14:47 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-05 15:09 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2007-04-05 15:09 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2007-04-05 15:18 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-05 15:18 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-05 15:49 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2007-04-05 15:49 ` Atsushi Nemoto
2007-04-05 15:56 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-05 15:56 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-04 8:12 ` [PATCH] Stop pmac_zilog from abusing 8250's device numbers David Miller
2007-04-04 8:12 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 8:38 ` Russell King
2007-04-04 8:38 ` Russell King
2007-04-04 8:43 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 8:43 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 9:00 ` Russell King
2007-04-04 9:00 ` Russell King
2007-04-04 19:58 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 19:58 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 12:21 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-04 16:10 ` Russell King
2007-04-04 16:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-04-04 16:25 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 16:25 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 17:41 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-04 17:41 ` Theodore Tso
2007-04-04 18:15 ` Russell King
2007-04-04 19:50 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-04 19:50 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-05 6:05 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-05 6:05 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-05 8:50 ` Russell King
2007-04-05 8:50 ` Russell King
2007-04-05 16:15 ` Olivier Galibert
2007-04-05 21:41 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-05 21:41 ` Pavel Machek
2007-04-03 23:56 ` David Miller
2007-04-03 23:56 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 1:13 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-04 1:13 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-04 6:58 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-04 6:58 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-04 14:16 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-04 14:16 ` David Woodhouse
2007-04-03 23:55 ` David Miller
2007-04-03 23:55 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 1:19 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 1:19 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 1:21 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 1:21 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 1:36 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 1:36 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-04 1:47 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 1:47 ` David Miller
2007-04-04 7:47 ` Russell King
2007-04-04 7:47 ` Russell King
2007-04-04 9:55 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-04 9:55 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-04 16:06 ` Russell King
2007-04-04 16:06 ` Russell King
2007-04-04 6:58 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-04-04 6:58 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2007-08-14 11:49 ` Olaf Hering
2007-08-14 11:49 ` Olaf Hering
2007-08-14 11:53 ` David Woodhouse
2007-08-14 11:53 ` David Woodhouse
2007-08-14 16:24 ` Olaf Hering
2007-08-14 16:24 ` Olaf Hering
2007-04-04 7:55 ` Olaf Hering
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