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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, shak <dshaks@redhat.com>,
	jakub@redhat.com, drepper@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lazy freeing of memory through MADV_FREE
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 11:15:26 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <462D5A2E.5060908@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <462C8E1D.8000706@redhat.com>

Rik van Riel wrote:
> Use TLB batching for MADV_FREE.  Adds another 10-15% extra performance
> to the MySQL sysbench results on my quad core system.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> ---
> 
> Nick Piggin wrote:
> 
>>> 3) because of this, we can treat any such accesses as
>>>    happening simultaneously with the MADV_FREE and
>>>    as illegal, aka undefined behaviour territory and
>>>    we do not need to worry about them
>>
>>
>> Yes, but I'm wondering if it is legal in all architectures.
> 
> 
> It's similar to trying to access memory during an munmap.
> 
> You may be able to for a short time, but it'll come back to
> haunt you.

The question is whether the architecture specific tlb
flushing code will break or not.


>>> 4) because we flush the tlb before releasing the page
>>>    table lock, other CPUs cannot remove this page from
>>>    the address space - they will block on the page
>>>    table lock before looking at this pte
>>
>>
>> We don't when the ptl is split.
> 
> 
> Even then we do.  Each invocation of zap_pte_range() only touches
> one page table page, and it flushes the TLB before releasing the
> page table lock.

What kernel are you looking at? -rc7 and rc6-mm1 don't, AFAIKS.

-- 
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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, shak <dshaks@redhat.com>,
	jakub@redhat.com, drepper@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lazy freeing of memory through MADV_FREE
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 11:15:26 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <462D5A2E.5060908@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <462C8E1D.8000706@redhat.com>

Rik van Riel wrote:
> Use TLB batching for MADV_FREE.  Adds another 10-15% extra performance
> to the MySQL sysbench results on my quad core system.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> ---
> 
> Nick Piggin wrote:
> 
>>> 3) because of this, we can treat any such accesses as
>>>    happening simultaneously with the MADV_FREE and
>>>    as illegal, aka undefined behaviour territory and
>>>    we do not need to worry about them
>>
>>
>> Yes, but I'm wondering if it is legal in all architectures.
> 
> 
> It's similar to trying to access memory during an munmap.
> 
> You may be able to for a short time, but it'll come back to
> haunt you.

The question is whether the architecture specific tlb
flushing code will break or not.


>>> 4) because we flush the tlb before releasing the page
>>>    table lock, other CPUs cannot remove this page from
>>>    the address space - they will block on the page
>>>    table lock before looking at this pte
>>
>>
>> We don't when the ptl is split.
> 
> 
> Even then we do.  Each invocation of zap_pte_range() only touches
> one page table page, and it flushes the TLB before releasing the
> page table lock.

What kernel are you looking at? -rc7 and rc6-mm1 don't, AFAIKS.

-- 
SUSE Labs, Novell Inc.

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-24  1:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-17  7:15 [PATCH] lazy freeing of memory through MADV_FREE Rik van Riel
2007-04-19 21:15 ` [PATCH] lazy freeing of memory through MADV_FREE 2/2 Rik van Riel
2007-04-20 21:03   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 21:03     ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 21:24     ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-20 21:24       ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-21  7:37       ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-21  7:37         ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-21 16:32         ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-21 16:32           ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-20 20:57 ` [PATCH] lazy freeing of memory through MADV_FREE Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 20:57   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 21:38   ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-20 21:38     ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-20 22:06     ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 22:06       ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-20 23:52       ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-20 23:52         ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-21  0:48         ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-21  0:48           ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-21  3:58           ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-21  3:58             ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-21  7:12         ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-21  7:12           ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-23  4:36           ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23  4:36             ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-22  2:36         ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-22  2:36           ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-22  2:50           ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-22  2:50             ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-22  6:31           ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-22  6:31             ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23  0:16             ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23  0:16               ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23  3:53               ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23  3:53                 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23  3:58                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23  3:58                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:07                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:07                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:12                     ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 10:12                       ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23  3:59                 ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23  3:59                   ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23  9:20                   ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 10:21                     ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:21                       ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:31                       ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 10:31                         ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 10:35                         ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:35                           ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-23 10:44                           ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-24  1:15                             ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-04-24  1:15                               ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-24  1:58                               ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-24  2:16                                 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-24  2:16                                   ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-24  4:42                                 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24  4:42                                   ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24  5:13                                   ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-24  5:13                                     ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-24  2:53                           ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-24  3:08                             ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-24  3:08                               ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-23 10:44                       ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-23 10:44                         ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-23 11:45                     ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23 11:45                       ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23  4:28           ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-23  4:28             ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-21  7:24     ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-21  7:24       ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-21 18:06       ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-21 18:06         ` Rik van Riel
2007-04-22  8:18 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22  8:18   ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-22  9:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22  9:16     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-22 16:55     ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-22 16:55       ` Ulrich Drepper

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