* svm vmexit action sequence
@ 2007-05-10 16:01 Jan Beulich
2007-05-10 16:12 ` Petersson, Mats
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From: Jan Beulich @ 2007-05-10 16:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: xen-devel
Is there any particular reason why on 32-bits the order is VMLOAD then
HVM_SAVE_ALL_NOSEGREGS, while on 64-bits its is the other way around?
Trying to put in the saving of EAX, I could save a GET_CURRENT() on 32-bits
if I could order things the same way as on 64-bits.
Also, both versions seem to have a redundant GET_CURRENT() right after
the clgi/sti sequence - again, is there a particular reason for this?
Thanks, Jan
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* RE: svm vmexit action sequence
2007-05-10 16:01 svm vmexit action sequence Jan Beulich
@ 2007-05-10 16:12 ` Petersson, Mats
2007-05-11 7:28 ` Jan Beulich
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From: Petersson, Mats @ 2007-05-10 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jan Beulich, xen-devel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com
> [mailto:xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of
> Jan Beulich
> Sent: 10 May 2007 17:02
> To: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
> Subject: [Xen-devel] svm vmexit action sequence
>
> Is there any particular reason why on 32-bits the order is VMLOAD then
> HVM_SAVE_ALL_NOSEGREGS, while on 64-bits its is the other way around?
> Trying to put in the saving of EAX, I could save a
> GET_CURRENT() on 32-bits
> if I could order things the same way as on 64-bits.
I don't see any reason why these shouldn't be the same (or at least as
similar as possible).
>
> Also, both versions seem to have a redundant GET_CURRENT() right after
> the clgi/sti sequence - again, is there a particular reason for this?
No reason as far as I can tell. Assuming rbx (in 64-bit case) isn't
clobbered by called functions, that is. I can't remember for 64-bit if
rbx is "safe" or not. [It certainly is safe in 32-bit].
Thanks for spotting these things.
--
Mats
>
> Thanks, Jan
>
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* RE: svm vmexit action sequence
2007-05-10 16:12 ` Petersson, Mats
@ 2007-05-11 7:28 ` Jan Beulich
2007-05-11 7:37 ` Keir Fraser
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From: Jan Beulich @ 2007-05-11 7:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mats Petersson; +Cc: xen-devel
One more question: both variants have HVM_SAVE_ALL_NOSEGREGS do a
forced reset of eflags/rflags - what is this needed for? #VMEXIT supposedly
restores them. Jan
>>> "Petersson, Mats" <Mats.Petersson@amd.com> 10.05.07 18:12 >>>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of
> Jan Beulich
> Sent: 10 May 2007 17:02
> To: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
> Subject: [Xen-devel] svm vmexit action sequence
>
> Is there any particular reason why on 32-bits the order is VMLOAD then
> HVM_SAVE_ALL_NOSEGREGS, while on 64-bits its is the other way around?
> Trying to put in the saving of EAX, I could save a
> GET_CURRENT() on 32-bits
> if I could order things the same way as on 64-bits.
I don't see any reason why these shouldn't be the same (or at least as
similar as possible).
>
> Also, both versions seem to have a redundant GET_CURRENT() right after
> the clgi/sti sequence - again, is there a particular reason for this?
No reason as far as I can tell. Assuming rbx (in 64-bit case) isn't
clobbered by called functions, that is. I can't remember for 64-bit if
rbx is "safe" or not. [It certainly is safe in 32-bit].
Thanks for spotting these things.
--
Mats
>
> Thanks, Jan
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Xen-devel mailing list
> Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel
>
>
>
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* Re: svm vmexit action sequence
2007-05-11 7:28 ` Jan Beulich
@ 2007-05-11 7:37 ` Keir Fraser
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From: Keir Fraser @ 2007-05-11 7:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jan Beulich, Mats Petersson; +Cc: xen-devel
See the unstable staging tree for some changes already in this area. As you
can see there is still quite some scope for improvement - I bet we can just
get rid of this push/popf pair for example. And the horrendous
VMLOAD/VMSAVE/VMLOAD/VMSAVE sequence can probably be shoved off at least to
only context switches.
-- Keir
On 11/5/07 08:28, "Jan Beulich" <jbeulich@novell.com> wrote:
> One more question: both variants have HVM_SAVE_ALL_NOSEGREGS do a
> forced reset of eflags/rflags - what is this needed for? #VMEXIT supposedly
> restores them. Jan
>
>>>> "Petersson, Mats" <Mats.Petersson@amd.com> 10.05.07 18:12 >>>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com
>> [mailto:xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of
>> Jan Beulich
>> Sent: 10 May 2007 17:02
>> To: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
>> Subject: [Xen-devel] svm vmexit action sequence
>>
>> Is there any particular reason why on 32-bits the order is VMLOAD then
>> HVM_SAVE_ALL_NOSEGREGS, while on 64-bits its is the other way around?
>> Trying to put in the saving of EAX, I could save a
>> GET_CURRENT() on 32-bits
>> if I could order things the same way as on 64-bits.
>
> I don't see any reason why these shouldn't be the same (or at least as
> similar as possible).
>>
>> Also, both versions seem to have a redundant GET_CURRENT() right after
>> the clgi/sti sequence - again, is there a particular reason for this?
>
> No reason as far as I can tell. Assuming rbx (in 64-bit case) isn't
> clobbered by called functions, that is. I can't remember for 64-bit if
> rbx is "safe" or not. [It certainly is safe in 32-bit].
>
> Thanks for spotting these things.
>
> --
> Mats
>>
>> Thanks, Jan
>>
>>
>>
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>> Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
>> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel
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* RE: svm vmexit action sequence
@ 2007-05-11 7:42 Jan Beulich
2007-05-11 7:51 ` Keir Fraser
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jan Beulich @ 2007-05-11 7:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mats Petersson; +Cc: xen-devel
Sorry, yet another question: both variants adjust rSP around the
vmload/vmrun/vmsave block - since these adjustments are already inverting
one another on 64-bits (and I'm making them so also on 32-bits), I would
think they could equally well both be left off - I think nothing inspects the
host VMCB while the guest is running, and hence nothing can get confused
by these pointing to a different stack slot.
Finally, is there a win of using an adjustment to rSP through add/sub
compared to using a push? I'd like to make the 64-bit save/restore
sequences symmetrical in either both skipping the RAX slot or both
pushing/popping a value (the pop would obviously go to a different
register, as the value must be discarded). I would even consider
replacing the whole push/pop sequences by using moves - this ought
to be faster, despite creating bigger code (assuming that the
throughput of moves is higher than that of back-to-back pushes/pops).
Jan
>>> "Petersson, Mats" <Mats.Petersson@amd.com> 10.05.07 18:12 >>>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com
> [mailto:xen-devel-bounces@lists.xensource.com] On Behalf Of
> Jan Beulich
> Sent: 10 May 2007 17:02
> To: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
> Subject: [Xen-devel] svm vmexit action sequence
>
> Is there any particular reason why on 32-bits the order is VMLOAD then
> HVM_SAVE_ALL_NOSEGREGS, while on 64-bits its is the other way around?
> Trying to put in the saving of EAX, I could save a
> GET_CURRENT() on 32-bits
> if I could order things the same way as on 64-bits.
I don't see any reason why these shouldn't be the same (or at least as
similar as possible).
>
> Also, both versions seem to have a redundant GET_CURRENT() right after
> the clgi/sti sequence - again, is there a particular reason for this?
No reason as far as I can tell. Assuming rbx (in 64-bit case) isn't
clobbered by called functions, that is. I can't remember for 64-bit if
rbx is "safe" or not. [It certainly is safe in 32-bit].
Thanks for spotting these things.
--
Mats
>
> Thanks, Jan
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Xen-devel mailing list
> Xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
> http://lists.xensource.com/xen-devel
>
>
>
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* Re: svm vmexit action sequence
2007-05-11 7:42 Jan Beulich
@ 2007-05-11 7:51 ` Keir Fraser
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Keir Fraser @ 2007-05-11 7:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jan Beulich, Mats Petersson; +Cc: xen-devel
On 11/5/07 08:42, "Jan Beulich" <jbeulich@novell.com> wrote:
> I would even consider
> replacing the whole push/pop sequences by using moves - this ought
> to be faster, despite creating bigger code (assuming that the
> throughput of moves is higher than that of back-to-back pushes/pops).
If moves can be measured as faster than pushes/pops on a reasonable range of
processors, it would make sense to change all our entry/exit sequences
rather than just this one and stick to one idiom (push/pop) or the other
(mov).
-- Keir
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