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From: Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Cherwin R. Nooitmeer" <cherwin@gmail.com>,
	Kristian H?gsberg <krh@bitplanet.net>,
	Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@it.uu.se>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
	linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	Robert de Rooy <robert.de.rooy@gmail.com>,
	Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
	Michal Piotrowski <michal.k.k.piotrowski@gmail.com>,
	linux-pcmcia@lists.infradead.org,
	Marcus Better <marcus@better.se>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
	Chris Newport <crn@netunix.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [2/3] 2.6.22-rc2: known regressions v2
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 13:07:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <465717BE.6070102@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0705250937550.26602@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On 05/25/2007 12:45 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Yes, in a controlled environment, dumping the whole memory image to disk 
> may be the right thing to do. BUT: in a controlled environment, you'll 
> never get the kind of usage that Linux gets. Why do you think Linux (and 
> Windows, for that matter) took away a lot of the market from traditional 
> UNIX? 
> 

Windows can dump memory to the swap file on crash. Default is a "minidump"
IIRC but you can set it to dump all memory (or none.)

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Cherwin R. Nooitmeer" <cherwin@gmail.com>,
	Kristian H?gsberg <krh@bitplanet.net>,
	Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@it.uu.se>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
	linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	Robert de Rooy <robert.de.rooy@gmail.com>,
	Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
	Michal Piotrowski <michal.k.k.piotrowski@gmail.com>,
	linux-pcmcia@lists.infradead.org,
	Marcus Better <marcus@better.se>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
	Chris Newport <crn@netunix.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [2/3] 2.6.22-rc2: known regressions v2
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 17:07:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <465717BE.6070102@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0705250937550.26602@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On 05/25/2007 12:45 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Yes, in a controlled environment, dumping the whole memory image to disk 
> may be the right thing to do. BUT: in a controlled environment, you'll 
> never get the kind of usage that Linux gets. Why do you think Linux (and 
> Windows, for that matter) took away a lot of the market from traditional 
> UNIX? 
> 

Windows can dump memory to the swap file on crash. Default is a "minidump"
IIRC but you can set it to dump all memory (or none.)


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Chris Newport <crn@netunix.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
	Michal Piotrowski <michal.k.k.piotrowski@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Cherwin R. Nooitmeer" <cherwin@gmail.com>,
	linux-pcmcia@lists.infradead.org,
	Robert de Rooy <robert.de.rooy@gmail.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>, Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@it.uu.se>,
	linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
	Kristian H?gsberg <krh@bitplanet.net>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Marcus Better <marcus@better.se>,
	Andrey Borzenkov <arvidjaar@mail.ru>,
	linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [2/3] 2.6.22-rc2: known regressions v2
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 13:07:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <465717BE.6070102@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0705250937550.26602@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On 05/25/2007 12:45 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Yes, in a controlled environment, dumping the whole memory image to disk 
> may be the right thing to do. BUT: in a controlled environment, you'll 
> never get the kind of usage that Linux gets. Why do you think Linux (and 
> Windows, for that matter) took away a lot of the market from traditional 
> UNIX? 
> 

Windows can dump memory to the swap file on crash. Default is a "minidump"
IIRC but you can set it to dump all memory (or none.)


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-25 17:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2007-05-24 14:04 ` [2/3] 2.6.22-rc2: known regressions v2 Michal Piotrowski
2007-05-24 14:04 ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-05-24 14:04   ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-05-24 14:18   ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-05-24 14:22     ` Michal Piotrowski
2007-05-24 14:18   ` Alan Stern
2007-05-24 17:01   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-24 17:01   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-24 17:01     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-24 17:12     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-24 17:12       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-24 17:12       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-24 17:18       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-24 17:18       ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-24 17:18         ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-24 18:49       ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-24 18:49         ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-24 18:49         ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-24 19:21         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-24 19:21           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-24 21:02           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-24 21:02           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-24 21:02             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-24 19:21         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-24 19:37       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-24 19:37         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-24 19:50         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-24 19:50           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-24 19:50           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-24 20:02           ` David Woodhouse
2007-05-24 20:02             ` David Woodhouse
2007-05-24 20:02           ` David Woodhouse
2007-05-25 10:11           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-25 10:11             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-25 10:18             ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-25 10:18               ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-25 10:18               ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-25 16:21               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-25 16:21                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-25 16:21                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-25 11:53             ` Chris Newport
2007-05-25 11:53               ` Chris Newport
2007-05-25 11:53               ` Chris Newport
2007-05-25 12:34               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-25 12:34               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-25 12:34                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-25 16:33                 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-25 16:33                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-25 16:33                   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-25 16:45                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-25 16:45                     ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-25 16:45                   ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-28  3:46                   ` Vivek Goyal
2007-05-28  3:58                     ` Vivek Goyal
2007-05-28  3:46                     ` Vivek Goyal
2007-05-25 12:40               ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-25 12:40               ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-25 12:40                 ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-25 16:45               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-25 16:45                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-25 16:45                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-25 17:03                 ` Alan Cox
2007-05-25 17:03                   ` Alan Cox
2007-05-25 17:03                   ` Alan Cox
2007-05-25 17:19                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-25 17:19                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-25 17:19                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-25 17:37                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-25 17:37                       ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-25 17:48                       ` Alan Cox
2007-05-25 17:48                         ` Alan Cox
2007-05-25 17:48                         ` Alan Cox
2007-05-25 17:50                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-25 17:50                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-25 17:50                         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-28  4:27                         ` Vivek Goyal
2007-05-28  4:27                         ` Vivek Goyal
2007-05-28  4:39                           ` Vivek Goyal
2007-05-25 17:37                     ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-25 17:07                 ` Chuck Ebbert [this message]
2007-05-25 17:07                   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-05-25 17:07                   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-05-25 17:21                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-25 17:21                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-25 17:21                     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-25 18:03                 ` Chris Newport
2007-05-25 18:03                 ` Chris Newport
2007-05-25 18:03                   ` Chris Newport
2007-05-25 20:36                   ` David Miller
2007-05-25 20:36                   ` David Miller
2007-05-25 20:36                     ` David Miller
2007-05-26 13:16                   ` Matt Sealey
2007-05-26 13:16                   ` [linux-pm] " Matt Sealey
2007-05-26 13:16                     ` Matt Sealey
2007-05-25 10:11           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-24 19:37       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-06-03  6:47   ` Stefan Richter
2007-05-24 14:04 ` [3/3] " Michal Piotrowski
2007-05-24 22:04   ` Greg KH

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