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From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Dor Laor <dor.laor@qumranet.com>,
	kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [kvm-devel] [RFC] Deferred interrupt handling.
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:46:13 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <469E43D5.70802@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070718174736.0baf6d0e@the-village.bc.nu>

Alan Cox wrote:
>> What if we will force the specific device to the end of the list. Once
>> IRQ_NONE was returned by the other devices, we will mask the irq,
>> forward the irq to the guest, issue a timer for 1msec. Motivation:
>> 1msec is long enough for the guest to ack the irq + host unmask the irq
>>     
>
> It makes no difference. The deadlock isn't fixable by timing hacks.
> Consider the following sequence
>
>
> 	Guest0	-	blocked on I/O
>
> 	IRQ14 from your hardware
> 		Block IRQ14
> 		Sent to guest (guest is blocked)
>
> 	IRQ14 from hard disk
> 		Ignored (as blocked)
>
> 	Deadlock
>   

IMO the only reasonable solution is to disallow interrupt forwarding
with shared irqs.  If someone later comes up with a bright idea, we can
implement it.  Otherwise the problem will solve itself with hardware
moving to msi.


-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.


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From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Deferred interrupt handling.
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:46:13 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <469E43D5.70802@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070718174736.0baf6d0e-v58gJUvfdfWUJIigds3554dd74u8MsAO@public.gmane.org>

Alan Cox wrote:
>> What if we will force the specific device to the end of the list. Once
>> IRQ_NONE was returned by the other devices, we will mask the irq,
>> forward the irq to the guest, issue a timer for 1msec. Motivation:
>> 1msec is long enough for the guest to ack the irq + host unmask the irq
>>     
>
> It makes no difference. The deadlock isn't fixable by timing hacks.
> Consider the following sequence
>
>
> 	Guest0	-	blocked on I/O
>
> 	IRQ14 from your hardware
> 		Block IRQ14
> 		Sent to guest (guest is blocked)
>
> 	IRQ14 from hard disk
> 		Ignored (as blocked)
>
> 	Deadlock
>   

IMO the only reasonable solution is to disallow interrupt forwarding
with shared irqs.  If someone later comes up with a bright idea, we can
implement it.  Otherwise the problem will solve itself with hardware
moving to msi.


-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.


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  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-18 16:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-18  9:53 [RFC] Deferred interrupt handling Or Sagi
2007-07-18  9:53 ` Or Sagi
2007-07-18 11:30 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-18 11:30   ` Alan Cox
2007-07-18 16:36   ` [kvm-devel] " Dor Laor
2007-07-18 16:36     ` Dor Laor
2007-07-18 16:47     ` [kvm-devel] " Alan Cox
2007-07-18 16:47       ` Alan Cox
2007-07-18 16:46       ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2007-07-18 16:46         ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-18 16:57         ` [kvm-devel] " Alan Cox
2007-07-18 16:57           ` Alan Cox
2007-07-18 16:57           ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-07-18 16:57             ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-18 17:14             ` [kvm-devel] " Alan Cox
2007-07-18 17:14               ` Alan Cox
2007-07-18 17:09         ` [kvm-devel] " Dor Laor
2007-07-18 17:09           ` Dor Laor
2007-07-18 17:33           ` [kvm-devel] " Alan Cox
2007-07-18 17:33             ` Alan Cox
2007-07-18 21:29             ` [kvm-devel] " Dor Laor
2007-07-18 21:29               ` Dor Laor
2007-07-18 21:46               ` [kvm-devel] " Alan Cox
2007-07-18 21:46                 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-25 14:18                 ` [kvm-devel] " Pavel Machek
2007-07-25 14:18                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-18 22:23               ` [kvm-devel] " Or Sagi
2007-07-18 22:23                 ` Or Sagi
2007-07-18 19:14         ` [kvm-devel] " Lennart Sorensen
2007-07-18 19:14           ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-07-19  9:23           ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-07-19  9:23             ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-19 13:17             ` [kvm-devel] " Lennart Sorensen
2007-07-19 13:17               ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-07-19 13:38               ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-07-19 13:38                 ` Avi Kivity
2007-07-19 16:23                 ` [kvm-devel] " Lennart Sorensen
2007-07-19 16:23                   ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-07-18 15:57 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-07-18 15:57   ` Lennart Sorensen

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