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From: Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com>
Cc: "Masami Hiramatsu (Google)" <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Joel Granados <joel.granados@kernel.org>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna.schumaker@oracle.com>,
	Lance Yang <ioworker0@gmail.com>,
	Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>,
	Yongliang Gao <leonylgao@tencent.com>,
	Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] hung_task: Show the blocker task if the task is hung on mutex
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 22:29:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46eca355-930c-4f6a-97cc-6787b6041a0c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250219212708.78b93a84@gandalf.local.home>


On 2/19/25 9:27 PM, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 21:15:08 -0500
> Waiman Long <llong@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> Writer - setting them:
>>
>>       WRITE_ONCE(lock)
>>       smp_wmb()
>>       WRITE_ONCE(type)
>>
>> Clearing them:
>>
>>       WRITE_ONCE(type, 0)
>>       smp_wmb()
>>       WRITE_ONCE(lock, NULL)
>>
>> Reader:
>>
>>       READ_ONCE(type)
>> again:
>>       smp_rmb()
>>       READ_ONCE(lock)
>>       smp_rmb()
>>       if (READ_ONCE(type) != type)
>>           goto again
> Do you really need the READ/WRITE_ONCE() with the memory barriers? From
> what I understand, the compiler can't even assume what it read is the same
> after passing a memory barrier like that. So there should be no reason it
> can reread the memory location after a barrier.

You may be right. However, without using a READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONLY, a 
compiler can potentially break up the read/write into multiple smaller 
trunks resulting in partial data. So I will use them to be on the safe 
side. In this particular scenario above, we may not need to use them on 
type as we are going to reread it. I will keep them for lock though.

Cheers,
Longman


> -- Steve
>



  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-20  3:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-19 13:00 [PATCH 0/2] hung_task: Dump the blocking task stacktrace Masami Hiramatsu (Google)
2025-02-19 13:00 ` [PATCH 1/2] hung_task: Show the blocker task if the task is hung on mutex Masami Hiramatsu (Google)
2025-02-19 16:23   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-19 20:18     ` Waiman Long
2025-02-19 20:24       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-19 22:44         ` Waiman Long
2025-02-19 22:56           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-19 23:55             ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-20  1:52               ` Lance Yang
2025-02-20  2:07               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-20  2:21                 ` Waiman Long
2025-02-20  2:23                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-20  1:36             ` Waiman Long
2025-02-20  1:41               ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-20  2:15                 ` Waiman Long
2025-02-20  2:27                   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-20  3:29                     ` Waiman Long [this message]
2025-02-20  2:59                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-20  3:37                     ` Waiman Long
2025-02-20  9:29                       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-20 13:28                         ` Waiman Long
2025-02-20  2:40                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-20  3:11                   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-20 13:13                     ` Waiman Long
2025-02-20 16:30                       ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-19 23:09         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-19 23:58           ` Steven Rostedt
2025-02-20  2:08             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-20  2:25               ` Waiman Long
2025-02-20  1:40           ` Waiman Long
2025-02-20  2:45           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-20  4:19             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-20  3:46             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-20  3:49             ` Waiman Long
2025-02-20  9:25             ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-19 13:00 ` [PATCH 2/2] samples: Add hung_task detector mutex blocking sample Masami Hiramatsu (Google)
2025-02-19 13:33 ` [PATCH 0/2] hung_task: Dump the blocking task stacktrace Lance Yang
2025-02-19 15:02   ` Lance Yang
2025-02-19 20:20     ` Waiman Long
2025-02-20  1:27       ` Lance Yang
2025-02-20 14:18       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-02-20 14:22         ` Waiman Long

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