From: barry bouwsma <free_beer_for_all@yahoo.com>
To: Georg Acher <acher@in.tum.de>
Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] Multiproto API/Driver Update
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 17:43:55 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47258.95113.qm@web46106.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080908195603.GE10714@braindead1.acher>
--- On Mon, 9/8/08, Georg Acher <acher@in.tum.de> wrote:
> > Or is DAB/T-DMB too different from DVB and related technologies,
>
> DAB itself is totally different to DVB, as it has no transport stream
> equivalent. The different subchannels have different frame/packet lengths,
First, many herzlichen dank for your reply. Now I'm going to
ask a question about something that I've just read about in
the last minutes...
Would this be somewhat comparable to the Generic Stream (GS)
of DVB-S2, particularly the Continuous mode, as opposed to the
packetised mode?
If there is to be added DVB-S2/GS ability to the relevant API,
which I suspect will be eventually necessary, as the Transport
Stream mode is a compatibility mode with DVB-S, then I am
wondering if that is reasonably close to how whatever DAB
hardware would deliver the modulated multiplex data on its
interface.
Of course, I really do not know what I'm talking about, yet.
> depending on their bitrate allocation and FEC. Also the service information
> (FIGs) has no similarity to DVB.
I would have to ask either someone familiar with the hardware
which I have, or someone who has viewed its datastream, but
if I understand what I've read so far, I should expect to need
to write a demultiplexer in userspace in order to get the
interesting data from the (1,5Mbit/sec-ish) multiplex datastream.
Anything more than that would require extending whatever API.
> closer inspection
> also shows some differences in the allowed video and audio
> codecs and how SI are handled.
If I understand correctly, the difference between DAB and DAB+
has nothing to do with the modulation -- unlike the newly-
being-tested DVB-T2, so my hardware from an API perspective
won't be magically obsoleted -- only the software player needs
AAC audio decoding ability.
Whereas, all my DVB-T devices (and DVB-C) will be obsolete in
the event that the nearby countries of interest decide to
introduce DVB-T2 -- which is not likely soon, but could happen
with the introduction of terrestrial HDTV, should those countries
actually do so, following the UK.
thanks,
barry bouwsma
P.S.: sorry if I've posted personal mail back to the list;
using a webmail+text-browser means I don't pay attention to
things that a Real Mail Client would make clear
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2008-09-09 0:43 ` barry bouwsma [this message]
2008-09-09 1:17 ` [linux-dvb] Multiproto API/Driver Update hermann pitton
2008-09-09 12:02 ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-09 12:12 ` Rudy Zijlstra
2008-09-09 15:33 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-09 20:59 ` Simon Kenyon
2008-09-09 21:14 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-10 0:02 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-10 0:42 ` [linux-dvb] How to measure API "goodness"? Andy Walls
2008-09-10 3:40 ` Glenn McGrath
2008-09-10 4:14 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-11 23:05 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2008-09-12 1:13 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-12 2:32 ` Andy Walls
2008-09-13 22:46 ` [linux-dvb] Multiproto API/Driver Update Manu Abraham
2008-09-13 22:56 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-13 22:56 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-13 23:31 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-13 23:31 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 2:10 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 2:10 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 10:51 ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-14 13:51 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 14:29 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 14:27 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 14:27 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 15:14 ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-14 15:28 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 16:54 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 19:51 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 21:57 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 22:03 ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-09-14 22:27 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 22:33 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 22:41 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-16 16:45 ` Benny Amorsen
2008-09-16 19:04 ` [linux-dvb] OT: Dual/BSD Licensing (was: Re: Multiproto API/Driver Update) BOUWSMA Barry
2008-09-16 19:16 ` [linux-dvb] OT: Dual/BSD Licensing Benny Amorsen
2008-09-14 15:38 ` [linux-dvb] Multiproto API/Driver Update Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 15:38 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 17:02 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 17:02 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 18:51 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 18:51 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 20:08 ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-15 0:17 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-14 20:45 ` Andy Walls
2008-09-14 20:45 ` Andy Walls
2008-09-14 21:01 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 21:01 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 22:20 ` Andy Walls
2008-09-14 22:20 ` Andy Walls
2008-09-14 22:36 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 22:36 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-15 4:23 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-15 4:23 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-14 21:03 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 21:03 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-15 5:50 ` Julian Scheel
2008-09-15 5:50 ` Julian Scheel
2008-09-15 15:42 ` Michael Krufky
2008-09-15 15:42 ` Michael Krufky
2008-09-19 10:58 ` Julian Scheel
2008-09-19 10:58 ` Julian Scheel
2008-09-19 19:51 ` VDR User
2008-09-19 19:55 ` VDR User
2008-09-24 16:54 ` Oliver Endriss
2008-09-24 16:54 ` Oliver Endriss
2008-09-15 23:10 ` Andy Walls
2008-09-15 23:10 ` Andy Walls
2008-09-16 2:55 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-16 2:55 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-14 3:39 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-14 3:39 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-14 19:08 ` Simon Kenyon
2008-09-14 19:25 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 20:54 ` Simon Kenyon
2008-09-14 21:00 ` Markus Rechberger
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2008-10-13 15:37 ` [linux-dvb] Multi-frontend patch merge (TESTERS FEEDBACK) was: Re: [PATCH] S2API: add multifrontend Steven Toth
2008-10-13 16:07 ` Darron Broad
2008-10-13 16:18 ` Steven Toth
2008-10-13 21:19 ` hermann pitton
2008-10-13 23:23 ` Hans Werner
2008-10-17 1:20 ` Hans Werner
2008-10-14 5:25 ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-10-14 10:42 ` Darron Broad
2008-10-14 22:06 ` Steven Toth
2008-10-14 14:57 ` Steven Toth
2008-10-15 16:44 ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-10-15 19:23 ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-10-15 19:13 ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-10-15 19:24 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-10 15:55 [linux-dvb] Multiproto API/Driver Update Otto Kekäläinen
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2008-09-04 18:12 lucian orasanu
2008-09-04 20:41 ` Manu Abraham
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2008-09-04 17:27 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-04 18:38 ` Goga777
2008-09-04 20:39 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-04 20:47 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2008-09-04 23:32 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-05 13:45 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-07 19:15 ` Simon Kenyon
2008-09-07 19:52 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-08 11:14 ` Simon Kenyon
2008-09-08 12:21 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-08 13:19 ` Halim Sahin
2008-09-08 16:07 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-08 17:54 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-08 18:19 ` Hans Werner
2008-09-08 18:25 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-08 18:38 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-08 16:03 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-08 15:57 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-05 14:32 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-05 1:01 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-05 18:04 ` Francesco Schiavarelli
2008-09-06 11:56 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-08 19:45 ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-08 20:37 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-08 20:47 ` Jelle De Loecker
2008-09-08 20:54 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-08 21:24 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-08 22:13 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-08 23:22 ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-09 8:22 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-11 20:51 ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-11 22:23 ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-11 23:16 ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-18 19:05 ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-12 9:17 ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-18 19:11 ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-18 19:24 ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-10 0:52 ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-10 9:16 ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-10 15:40 ` Michael Krufky
2008-09-12 21:43 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-12 22:35 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-14 11:15 ` Klaus Schmidinger
2008-09-14 19:15 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 23:02 ` Manu Abraham
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