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From: Steven Toth <stoth@linuxtv.org>
To: Markus Rechberger <mrechberger@gmail.com>
Cc: Manu Abraham <abraham.manu@gmail.com>,
	linux-dvb@linuxtv.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] Multiproto API/Driver Update
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:27:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48CD1F3E.6080900@linuxtv.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d9def9db0809131910h2ff43b9auf86eb340adb2fac8@mail.gmail.com>

Markus Rechberger wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 1:31 AM, Manu Abraham <abraham.manu@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Markus Rechberger wrote:
>>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Manu Abraham <abraham.manu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Markus Rechberger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How many devices are currently supported by the multiproto API
>>>>> compared with the s2 tree?
>>>> The initial set of DVB-S2 multistandard devices supported by the
>>>> multiproto tree is follows. This is just the stb0899 based dvb-s2 driver
>>>> alone. There are more additions by 2 more modules (not devices), but for
>>>> the simple comparison here is the quick list of them, for which some of
>>>> the manufacturers have shown support in some way. (There has been quite
>>>> some contributions from the community as well.):
>>>>
>>>> (Also to be noted is that, some BSD chaps also have shown interest in
>>>> the same)
>>>>
>>> they're heavy into moving the whole framework over as far as I've seen
>>> yes, also including yet unmerged drivers.
>>
>> Using the same interface, the same applications will work there as well
>> which is a bonus, but isn't the existing user interface GPL ? (A bit
>> confused on that aspect)
>>
> 
> I think it's good to have something that competes with Linux, I talked to some
> guys at that front too, and they seem to work close with application
> developers too
> As for the em28xx driver I agreed with pushing all my code (in case of
> linux, which
> includes unmerged independent drivercode from manufacturers) into their system
> using their license.

Something that competes with Linux, absolutely, I could not agree more - 
especially if the licenses are compatible and cross O/S pollination of 
ideas/code can occur. Everyone benefits from this.

Hauppauge had a guy from the BSD community contact us and ask for 
datasheets for certain parts. Part of the problem, as I understand it, 
is that the BSD folks can't port the GPL license into BSD because it's 
not compatible.

I owe it to myself to spend somehime reading the BSD licencing. Maybe 
the GPL is compatible with BSD.

Just my 2 cents.

- Steve


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From: Steven Toth <stoth@linuxtv.org>
To: Markus Rechberger <mrechberger@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-dvb@linuxtv.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Manu Abraham <abraham.manu@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] Multiproto API/Driver Update
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:27:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48CD1F3E.6080900@linuxtv.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d9def9db0809131910h2ff43b9auf86eb340adb2fac8@mail.gmail.com>

Markus Rechberger wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 1:31 AM, Manu Abraham <abraham.manu@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Markus Rechberger wrote:
>>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 12:46 AM, Manu Abraham <abraham.manu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Markus Rechberger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How many devices are currently supported by the multiproto API
>>>>> compared with the s2 tree?
>>>> The initial set of DVB-S2 multistandard devices supported by the
>>>> multiproto tree is follows. This is just the stb0899 based dvb-s2 driver
>>>> alone. There are more additions by 2 more modules (not devices), but for
>>>> the simple comparison here is the quick list of them, for which some of
>>>> the manufacturers have shown support in some way. (There has been quite
>>>> some contributions from the community as well.):
>>>>
>>>> (Also to be noted is that, some BSD chaps also have shown interest in
>>>> the same)
>>>>
>>> they're heavy into moving the whole framework over as far as I've seen
>>> yes, also including yet unmerged drivers.
>>
>> Using the same interface, the same applications will work there as well
>> which is a bonus, but isn't the existing user interface GPL ? (A bit
>> confused on that aspect)
>>
> 
> I think it's good to have something that competes with Linux, I talked to some
> guys at that front too, and they seem to work close with application
> developers too
> As for the em28xx driver I agreed with pushing all my code (in case of
> linux, which
> includes unmerged independent drivercode from manufacturers) into their system
> using their license.

Something that competes with Linux, absolutely, I could not agree more - 
especially if the licenses are compatible and cross O/S pollination of 
ideas/code can occur. Everyone benefits from this.

Hauppauge had a guy from the BSD community contact us and ask for 
datasheets for certain parts. Part of the problem, as I understand it, 
is that the BSD folks can't port the GPL license into BSD because it's 
not compatible.

I owe it to myself to spend somehime reading the BSD licencing. Maybe 
the GPL is compatible with BSD.

Just my 2 cents.

- Steve


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-09-14 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2008-09-09  0:43 ` [linux-dvb] Multiproto API/Driver Update barry bouwsma
2008-09-09  1:17   ` hermann pitton
2008-09-09 12:02     ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-09 12:12       ` Rudy Zijlstra
2008-09-09 15:33         ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-09 20:59           ` Simon Kenyon
2008-09-09 21:14             ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-10  0:02               ` Steven Toth
2008-09-10  0:42               ` [linux-dvb] How to measure API "goodness"? Andy Walls
2008-09-10  3:40                 ` Glenn McGrath
2008-09-10  4:14                   ` hermann pitton
2008-09-11 23:05                   ` Johannes Stezenbach
2008-09-12  1:13                     ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-12  2:32                   ` Andy Walls
2008-09-13 22:46           ` [linux-dvb] Multiproto API/Driver Update Manu Abraham
2008-09-13 22:56             ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-13 22:56               ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-13 23:31               ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-13 23:31                 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14  2:10                 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14  2:10                   ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 10:51                   ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-14 13:51                     ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 14:29                       ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 14:27                   ` Steven Toth [this message]
2008-09-14 14:27                     ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 15:14                     ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-14 15:28                       ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 16:54                       ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 19:51                         ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 21:57                           ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 22:03                             ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-09-14 22:27                               ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 22:33                             ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 22:41                               ` hermann pitton
2008-09-16 16:45                       ` Benny Amorsen
2008-09-16 19:04                         ` [linux-dvb] OT: Dual/BSD Licensing (was: Re: Multiproto API/Driver Update) BOUWSMA Barry
2008-09-16 19:16                           ` [linux-dvb] OT: Dual/BSD Licensing Benny Amorsen
2008-09-14 15:38                 ` [linux-dvb] Multiproto API/Driver Update Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 15:38                   ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 17:02                   ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 17:02                     ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 18:51                     ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 18:51                       ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 20:08                       ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-15  0:17                         ` hermann pitton
2008-09-14 20:45                       ` Andy Walls
2008-09-14 20:45                         ` Andy Walls
2008-09-14 21:01                         ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 21:01                           ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 22:20                           ` Andy Walls
2008-09-14 22:20                             ` Andy Walls
2008-09-14 22:36                             ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 22:36                               ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-15  4:23                             ` hermann pitton
2008-09-15  4:23                               ` hermann pitton
2008-09-14 21:03                         ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 21:03                           ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-15  5:50                         ` Julian Scheel
2008-09-15  5:50                           ` Julian Scheel
2008-09-15 15:42                           ` Michael Krufky
2008-09-15 15:42                             ` Michael Krufky
2008-09-19 10:58                             ` Julian Scheel
2008-09-19 10:58                               ` Julian Scheel
2008-09-19 19:51                               ` VDR User
2008-09-19 19:55                               ` VDR User
2008-09-24 16:54                               ` Oliver Endriss
2008-09-24 16:54                                 ` Oliver Endriss
2008-09-15 23:10                           ` Andy Walls
2008-09-15 23:10                             ` Andy Walls
2008-09-16  2:55                             ` hermann pitton
2008-09-16  2:55                               ` hermann pitton
2008-09-14  3:39               ` hermann pitton
2008-09-14  3:39                 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-14 19:08             ` Simon Kenyon
2008-09-14 19:25               ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 20:54                 ` Simon Kenyon
2008-09-14 21:00                   ` Markus Rechberger
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2008-10-13 15:37                                                                     ` [linux-dvb] Multi-frontend patch merge (TESTERS FEEDBACK) was: Re: [PATCH] S2API: add multifrontend Steven Toth
2008-10-13 16:07                                                                       ` Darron Broad
2008-10-13 16:18                                                                         ` Steven Toth
2008-10-13 21:19                                                                           ` hermann pitton
2008-10-13 23:23                                                                           ` Hans Werner
2008-10-17  1:20                                                                             ` Hans Werner
2008-10-14  5:25                                                                       ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-10-14 10:42                                                                         ` Darron Broad
2008-10-14 22:06                                                                           ` Steven Toth
2008-10-14 14:57                                                                         ` Steven Toth
2008-10-15 16:44                                                                           ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-10-15 19:23                                                                             ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-10-15 19:13                                                                           ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-10-15 19:24                                                                             ` Steven Toth
2008-09-10 15:55 [linux-dvb] Multiproto API/Driver Update Otto Kekäläinen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-09-04 18:12 lucian orasanu
2008-09-04 20:41 ` Manu Abraham
     [not found] <48C00822.4030509@gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <48C01698.4060503@gmail.com>
2008-09-04 17:27   ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-04 18:38     ` Goga777
2008-09-04 20:39       ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-04 20:47     ` Johannes Stezenbach
2008-09-04 23:32       ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-05 13:45         ` Steven Toth
2008-09-07 19:15           ` Simon Kenyon
2008-09-07 19:52             ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-08 11:14               ` Simon Kenyon
2008-09-08 12:21                 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-08 13:19                   ` Halim Sahin
2008-09-08 16:07                     ` Steven Toth
2008-09-08 17:54                       ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-08 18:19                         ` Hans Werner
2008-09-08 18:25                           ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-08 18:38                           ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-08 16:03                 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-08 15:57             ` Steven Toth
2008-09-05 14:32         ` Steven Toth
2008-09-05  1:01       ` hermann pitton
2008-09-05 18:04     ` Francesco Schiavarelli
2008-09-06 11:56       ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-08 19:45       ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-08 20:37         ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-08 20:47           ` Jelle De Loecker
2008-09-08 20:54             ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-08 21:24               ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-08 22:13                 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-08 23:22               ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-09  8:22                 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-11 20:51                 ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-11 22:23                   ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-11 23:16                     ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-18 19:05                       ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-12  9:17                     ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-18 19:11                       ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-18 19:24                         ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-10  0:52           ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-10  9:16             ` Uri Shkolnik
2008-09-10 15:40               ` Michael Krufky
2008-09-12 21:43             ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-12 22:35               ` hermann pitton
2008-09-14 11:15               ` Klaus Schmidinger
2008-09-14 19:15                 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 23:02                 ` Manu Abraham

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