From: Steven Toth <stoth@linuxtv.org>
To: Andreas Oberritter <obi@linuxtv.org>
Cc: Hans Werner <HWerner4@gmx.de>,
fabbione@fabbione.net, linux-dvb <linux-dvb@linuxtv.org>,
scarfoglio@arpacoop.it
Subject: Re: [linux-dvb] Multi-frontend patch merge (TESTERS FEEDBACK) was: Re: [PATCH] S2API: add multifrontend
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:24:33 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48F64371.2080401@linuxtv.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48F640DA.7060009@linuxtv.org>
Andreas Oberritter wrote:
> Steven Toth wrote:
>> A good example of this in the current kernel (without any MFE patches)
>> is the current cx23885 driver, that registers adapter0 and adapter1 with
>> two different ATSC frontends. I question (and argue) that it should
>> really be /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux{0,1}
>
> Did you mean frontend{0,1} here?
demux _and_ frontend, for different reasons.
>
>> The same is also true for the for the multi-frontend patches, it should
>> probably change (as part of an overall adapterX overhaul) to match the
>> LinuxTV DVB API and register only one demux device.
>>
>> That's a much larger project, and has not been addressed yet. Many users
>> will probably also argue that it's unimportant work, when application
>> are currently working.
>>
>> My opinion is that we would review the adapter usage and determine
>> whether we need or want to change that. If we do change it we should
>> probably add some better application interfaces from the adapter inode -
>> In a model similar to the S2API has done for frontends. Applications
>> would then be able to query board specific details in a way that cannot
>> be easily done now.
>
> Yes, such an interface is definitely missing.
Yeah, I've been thinking more and more about this. I need to finish some
other projects before I try some ideas - but I think we need more bridge
level support for applications.
>
>> However, regardless of my opinions, it would be a mistake to hold back a
>> merge of the current multi-frontend patches. Instead, we should merge
>> the large number of MFE patches and start a larger adapter level
>> discussion and slowly evolve with smaller patches. (We'll need someone
>> to draft an RFC).
>
> There's no need to hold back the merge. Even if someone decides to change
> the code to match the DVB API later, then it wouldn't be a change to the
> API itself. (Or is there any change being done to the user interface now?)
> Application developers can already add support for DMX_SET_SOURCE now.
OK.
>
>> Are you volunteering to address this larger subject?
>
> No.
OK. To be honest, I dbout anyone else will either.
Regards,
- Steve
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2008-09-09 0:43 ` [linux-dvb] Multiproto API/Driver Update barry bouwsma
2008-09-09 1:17 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-09 12:02 ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-09 12:12 ` Rudy Zijlstra
2008-09-09 15:33 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-09 20:59 ` Simon Kenyon
2008-09-09 21:14 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-10 0:02 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-10 0:42 ` [linux-dvb] How to measure API "goodness"? Andy Walls
2008-09-10 3:40 ` Glenn McGrath
2008-09-10 4:14 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-11 23:05 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2008-09-12 1:13 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-12 2:32 ` Andy Walls
2008-09-13 22:46 ` [linux-dvb] Multiproto API/Driver Update Manu Abraham
2008-09-13 22:56 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-13 22:56 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-13 23:31 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-13 23:31 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 2:10 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 2:10 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 10:51 ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-14 13:51 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 14:29 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 14:27 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 14:27 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 15:14 ` barry bouwsma
2008-09-14 15:28 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 16:54 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 19:51 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 21:57 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 22:03 ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-09-14 22:27 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 22:33 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 22:41 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-16 16:45 ` Benny Amorsen
2008-09-16 19:04 ` [linux-dvb] OT: Dual/BSD Licensing (was: Re: Multiproto API/Driver Update) BOUWSMA Barry
2008-09-16 19:16 ` [linux-dvb] OT: Dual/BSD Licensing Benny Amorsen
2008-09-14 15:38 ` [linux-dvb] Multiproto API/Driver Update Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 15:38 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 17:02 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 17:02 ` Steven Toth
2008-09-14 18:51 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 18:51 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 20:08 ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-09-15 0:17 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-14 20:45 ` Andy Walls
2008-09-14 20:45 ` Andy Walls
2008-09-14 21:01 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 21:01 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 22:20 ` Andy Walls
2008-09-14 22:20 ` Andy Walls
2008-09-14 22:36 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 22:36 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-15 4:23 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-15 4:23 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-14 21:03 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-14 21:03 ` Manu Abraham
2008-09-15 5:50 ` Julian Scheel
2008-09-15 5:50 ` Julian Scheel
2008-09-15 15:42 ` Michael Krufky
2008-09-15 15:42 ` Michael Krufky
2008-09-19 10:58 ` Julian Scheel
2008-09-19 10:58 ` Julian Scheel
2008-09-19 19:51 ` VDR User
2008-09-19 19:55 ` VDR User
2008-09-24 16:54 ` Oliver Endriss
2008-09-24 16:54 ` Oliver Endriss
2008-09-15 23:10 ` Andy Walls
2008-09-15 23:10 ` Andy Walls
2008-09-16 2:55 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-16 2:55 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-14 3:39 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-14 3:39 ` hermann pitton
2008-09-14 19:08 ` Simon Kenyon
2008-09-14 19:25 ` Markus Rechberger
2008-09-14 20:54 ` Simon Kenyon
2008-09-14 21:00 ` Markus Rechberger
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2008-10-13 15:37 ` [linux-dvb] Multi-frontend patch merge (TESTERS FEEDBACK) was: Re: [PATCH] S2API: add multifrontend Steven Toth
2008-10-13 16:07 ` Darron Broad
2008-10-13 16:18 ` Steven Toth
2008-10-13 21:19 ` hermann pitton
2008-10-13 23:23 ` Hans Werner
2008-10-17 1:20 ` Hans Werner
2008-10-14 5:25 ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-10-14 10:42 ` Darron Broad
2008-10-14 22:06 ` Steven Toth
2008-10-14 14:57 ` Steven Toth
2008-10-15 16:44 ` Christophe Thommeret
2008-10-15 19:23 ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-10-15 19:13 ` Andreas Oberritter
2008-10-15 19:24 ` Steven Toth [this message]
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