From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty-PBSTF//UHa40n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>,
virtualization-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] virtio PCI device
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:06:19 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <473325EB.5090907@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47331F47.70304-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Avi Kivity wrote:
> If a pci device is capable of dma (or issuing interrupts), it will be
> useless with pv pci.
Hrm, I think we may be talking about different things. Are you thinking
that the driver I posted allows you to do PCI pass-through over virtio?
That's not what it is.
The driver I posted is a virtio implementation that uses a PCI device.
This lets you use virtio-blk and virtio-net under KVM. The alternative
to this virtio PCI device would be a virtio transport built with
hypercalls like lguest has. I choose a PCI device because it ensured
that each virtio device showed up like a normal PCI device.
Am I misunderstanding what you're asking about?
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
>>> I think that with Amit's pvdma patches you
>>> can support dma-capable devices as well without too much fuss.
>>>
>>
>> What is the use case you're thinking of? A semi-paravirt driver that
>> does dma directly to a device?
>
> No, an unmodified driver that, by using clever tricks with dma_ops,
> can do dma directly to guest memory. See Amit's patches.
>
> In fact, why do a virtio transport at all? It can be done either with
> trap'n'emulate, or by directly mapping the device mmio space into the
> guest.
>
>
> (what use case are you considering? devices without interrupts and
> dma? pci door stoppers?)
>
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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rusycorp.com.au>,
virtualization@lists.osdl.org, kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [kvm-devel] [PATCH 3/3] virtio PCI device
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:06:19 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <473325EB.5090907@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47331F47.70304@qumranet.com>
Avi Kivity wrote:
> If a pci device is capable of dma (or issuing interrupts), it will be
> useless with pv pci.
Hrm, I think we may be talking about different things. Are you thinking
that the driver I posted allows you to do PCI pass-through over virtio?
That's not what it is.
The driver I posted is a virtio implementation that uses a PCI device.
This lets you use virtio-blk and virtio-net under KVM. The alternative
to this virtio PCI device would be a virtio transport built with
hypercalls like lguest has. I choose a PCI device because it ensured
that each virtio device showed up like a normal PCI device.
Am I misunderstanding what you're asking about?
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
>
>>> I think that with Amit's pvdma patches you
>>> can support dma-capable devices as well without too much fuss.
>>>
>>
>> What is the use case you're thinking of? A semi-paravirt driver that
>> does dma directly to a device?
>
> No, an unmodified driver that, by using clever tricks with dma_ops,
> can do dma directly to guest memory. See Amit's patches.
>
> In fact, why do a virtio transport at all? It can be done either with
> trap'n'emulate, or by directly mapping the device mmio space into the
> guest.
>
>
> (what use case are you considering? devices without interrupts and
> dma? pci door stoppers?)
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-08 15:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-08 2:46 [PATCH 0/3] virtio PCI driver Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <11944899922822-git-send-email-aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08 2:46 ` [PATCH 1/3] Export vring functions for modules to use Anthony Liguori
2007-11-08 2:46 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <11944900141678-git-send-email-aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08 2:46 ` [PATCH 2/3] Put the virtio under the virtualization menu Anthony Liguori
2007-11-08 2:46 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <11944900152750-git-send-email-aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08 2:46 ` [PATCH 3/3] virtio PCI device Anthony Liguori
2007-11-08 2:46 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <11944900163817-git-send-email-aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08 6:12 ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-08 6:12 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <4732A8E5.6090307-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08 13:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-11-08 13:54 ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <47331531.8070709-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08 14:37 ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-08 14:37 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <47331F47.70304-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08 15:06 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2007-11-08 15:06 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <473325EB.5090907-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08 15:13 ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-08 15:13 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-11-08 23:43 ` Dor Laor
2007-11-08 23:43 ` [kvm-devel] " Dor Laor
2007-11-08 15:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-11-08 17:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-11-08 17:46 ` [kvm-devel] " Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <200711081846.36821.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08 19:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-11-08 19:04 ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <47335DC6.7090603-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-09 11:03 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-11-09 11:03 ` [kvm-devel] " Arnd Bergmann
2007-11-09 0:39 ` Dor Laor
2007-11-09 0:39 ` [kvm-devel] " Dor Laor
[not found] ` <4733AC3A.20701-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-09 2:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-11-09 2:17 ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2007-11-20 15:01 ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-20 15:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-11-20 15:43 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <474300AD.4060509-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-20 16:12 ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-20 16:12 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <4743076F.8000105-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-20 22:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-11-20 22:16 ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <47435CCB.1050506-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-21 7:13 ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-21 7:13 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <4743DAA4.70800-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-21 18:22 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-11-21 18:22 ` [kvm-devel] " Zachary Amsden
[not found] ` <1195669377.6352.247.camel-cxY/u30q8FloTgUnLF1by8fTvwmfpRNyZeezCHUQhQ4@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-22 7:32 ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-22 7:32 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-11-23 16:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-11-23 16:51 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <4747051C.3090903-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-23 17:47 ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-23 17:47 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-11-26 19:18 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <474B1BF3.20901-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-27 9:02 ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-27 9:02 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <474BDD28.7050801-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-27 9:09 ` Carsten Otte
2007-11-27 9:09 ` [kvm-devel] " Carsten Otte
[not found] ` <474BDEDE.6060603-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-27 9:27 ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-27 9:27 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <474BE319.502-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-27 10:12 ` Carsten Otte
2007-11-27 10:12 ` [kvm-devel] " Carsten Otte
[not found] ` <474BEDAB.3000305-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-27 10:19 ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-27 10:19 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <474BEF28.9010005-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-27 10:28 ` Carsten Otte
2007-11-27 10:28 ` [kvm-devel] " Carsten Otte
[not found] ` <474BF157.3080709-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-27 13:27 ` Dor Laor
2007-11-27 9:25 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-11-27 9:25 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-11-27 9:25 ` [kvm-devel] " Arnd Bergmann
2007-11-08 6:49 ` [PATCH 2/3] Put the virtio under the virtualization menu Avi Kivity
2007-11-08 6:49 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
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