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From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty-PBSTF//UHa40n/F98K4Iww@public.gmane.org>,
	virtualization-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] virtio PCI device
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:12:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4743076F.8000105@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <474300AD.4060509-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>   
>> Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>     
>>> This is a PCI device that implements a transport for virtio.  It 
>>> allows virtio
>>> devices to be used by QEMU based VMMs like KVM or Xen.
>>>
>>> +
>>> +/* the notify function used when creating a virt queue */
>>> +static void vp_notify(struct virtqueue *vq)
>>> +{
>>> +    struct virtio_pci_device *vp_dev = to_vp_device(vq->vdev);
>>> +    struct virtio_pci_vq_info *info = vq->priv;
>>> +
>>> +    /* we write the queue's selector into the notification register to
>>> +     * signal the other end */
>>> +    iowrite16(info->queue_index, vp_dev->ioaddr + 
>>> VIRTIO_PCI_QUEUE_NOTIFY);
>>> +}
>>>   
>>>       
>> This means we can't kick multiple queues with one exit.
>>     
>
> There is no interface in virtio currently to batch multiple queue 
> notifications so the only way one could do this AFAICT is to use a timer 
> to delay the notifications.  Were you thinking of something else?
>
>   

No.  We can change virtio though, so let's have a flexible ABI.

>> I'd also like to see a hypercall-capable version of this (but that can 
>> wait).
>>     
>
> That can be a different device.
>   

That means the user has to select which device to expose.  With feature 
bits, the hypervisor advertises both pio and hypercalls, the guest picks 
whatever it wants.

>   
>>> +
>>> +/* A small wrapper to also acknowledge the interrupt when it's handled.
>>> + * I really need an EIO hook for the vring so I can ack the 
>>> interrupt once we
>>> + * know that we'll be handling the IRQ but before we invoke the 
>>> callback since
>>> + * the callback may notify the host which results in the host 
>>> attempting to
>>> + * raise an interrupt that we would then mask once we acknowledged the
>>> + * interrupt. */
>>> +static irqreturn_t vp_interrupt(int irq, void *opaque)
>>> +{
>>> +    struct virtio_pci_device *vp_dev = opaque;
>>> +    struct virtio_pci_vq_info *info;
>>> +    irqreturn_t ret = IRQ_NONE;
>>> +    u8 isr;
>>> +
>>> +    /* reading the ISR has the effect of also clearing it so it's very
>>> +     * important to save off the value. */
>>> +    isr = ioread8(vp_dev->ioaddr + VIRTIO_PCI_ISR);
>>>   
>>>       
>> Can this be implemented via shared memory? We're exiting now on every 
>> interrupt.
>>     
>
> I don't think so.  A vmexit is required to lower the IRQ line.  It may 
> be possible to do something clever like set a shared memory value that's 
> checked on every vmexit.  I think it's very unlikely that it's worth it 
> though.
>   

Why so unlikely?  Not all workloads will have good batching.


>   
>>> +    return ret;
>>> +}
>>> +
>>> +/* the config->find_vq() implementation */
>>> +static struct virtqueue *vp_find_vq(struct virtio_device *vdev, 
>>> unsigned index,
>>> +                    bool (*callback)(struct virtqueue *vq))
>>> +{
>>> +    struct virtio_pci_device *vp_dev = to_vp_device(vdev);
>>> +    struct virtio_pci_vq_info *info;
>>> +    struct virtqueue *vq;
>>> +    int err;
>>> +    u16 num;
>>> +
>>> +    /* Select the queue we're interested in */
>>> +    iowrite16(index, vp_dev->ioaddr + VIRTIO_PCI_QUEUE_SEL);
>>>   
>>>       
>> I would really like to see this implemented as pci config space, with 
>> no tricks like multiplexing several virtqueues on one register. 
>> Something like the PCI BARs where you have all the register numbers 
>> allocated statically to queues.
>>     
>
> My first implementation did that.  I switched to using a selector 
> because it reduces the amount of PCI config space used and does not 
> limit the number of queues defined by the ABI as much.
>   

But... it's tricky, and it's nonstandard.  With pci config, you can do 
live migration by shipping the pci config space to the other side.  With 
the special iospace, you need to encode/decode it.

Not much of an argument, I know.


wrt. number of queues, 8 queues will consume 32 bytes of pci space if 
all you store is the ring pfn.


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From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rusycorp.com.au>,
	virtualization@lists.osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [kvm-devel] [PATCH 3/3] virtio PCI device
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 18:12:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4743076F.8000105@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <474300AD.4060509@us.ibm.com>

Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>   
>> Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>     
>>> This is a PCI device that implements a transport for virtio.  It 
>>> allows virtio
>>> devices to be used by QEMU based VMMs like KVM or Xen.
>>>
>>> +
>>> +/* the notify function used when creating a virt queue */
>>> +static void vp_notify(struct virtqueue *vq)
>>> +{
>>> +    struct virtio_pci_device *vp_dev = to_vp_device(vq->vdev);
>>> +    struct virtio_pci_vq_info *info = vq->priv;
>>> +
>>> +    /* we write the queue's selector into the notification register to
>>> +     * signal the other end */
>>> +    iowrite16(info->queue_index, vp_dev->ioaddr + 
>>> VIRTIO_PCI_QUEUE_NOTIFY);
>>> +}
>>>   
>>>       
>> This means we can't kick multiple queues with one exit.
>>     
>
> There is no interface in virtio currently to batch multiple queue 
> notifications so the only way one could do this AFAICT is to use a timer 
> to delay the notifications.  Were you thinking of something else?
>
>   

No.  We can change virtio though, so let's have a flexible ABI.

>> I'd also like to see a hypercall-capable version of this (but that can 
>> wait).
>>     
>
> That can be a different device.
>   

That means the user has to select which device to expose.  With feature 
bits, the hypervisor advertises both pio and hypercalls, the guest picks 
whatever it wants.

>   
>>> +
>>> +/* A small wrapper to also acknowledge the interrupt when it's handled.
>>> + * I really need an EIO hook for the vring so I can ack the 
>>> interrupt once we
>>> + * know that we'll be handling the IRQ but before we invoke the 
>>> callback since
>>> + * the callback may notify the host which results in the host 
>>> attempting to
>>> + * raise an interrupt that we would then mask once we acknowledged the
>>> + * interrupt. */
>>> +static irqreturn_t vp_interrupt(int irq, void *opaque)
>>> +{
>>> +    struct virtio_pci_device *vp_dev = opaque;
>>> +    struct virtio_pci_vq_info *info;
>>> +    irqreturn_t ret = IRQ_NONE;
>>> +    u8 isr;
>>> +
>>> +    /* reading the ISR has the effect of also clearing it so it's very
>>> +     * important to save off the value. */
>>> +    isr = ioread8(vp_dev->ioaddr + VIRTIO_PCI_ISR);
>>>   
>>>       
>> Can this be implemented via shared memory? We're exiting now on every 
>> interrupt.
>>     
>
> I don't think so.  A vmexit is required to lower the IRQ line.  It may 
> be possible to do something clever like set a shared memory value that's 
> checked on every vmexit.  I think it's very unlikely that it's worth it 
> though.
>   

Why so unlikely?  Not all workloads will have good batching.


>   
>>> +    return ret;
>>> +}
>>> +
>>> +/* the config->find_vq() implementation */
>>> +static struct virtqueue *vp_find_vq(struct virtio_device *vdev, 
>>> unsigned index,
>>> +                    bool (*callback)(struct virtqueue *vq))
>>> +{
>>> +    struct virtio_pci_device *vp_dev = to_vp_device(vdev);
>>> +    struct virtio_pci_vq_info *info;
>>> +    struct virtqueue *vq;
>>> +    int err;
>>> +    u16 num;
>>> +
>>> +    /* Select the queue we're interested in */
>>> +    iowrite16(index, vp_dev->ioaddr + VIRTIO_PCI_QUEUE_SEL);
>>>   
>>>       
>> I would really like to see this implemented as pci config space, with 
>> no tricks like multiplexing several virtqueues on one register. 
>> Something like the PCI BARs where you have all the register numbers 
>> allocated statically to queues.
>>     
>
> My first implementation did that.  I switched to using a selector 
> because it reduces the amount of PCI config space used and does not 
> limit the number of queues defined by the ABI as much.
>   

But... it's tricky, and it's nonstandard.  With pci config, you can do 
live migration by shipping the pci config space to the other side.  With 
the special iospace, you need to encode/decode it.

Not much of an argument, I know.


wrt. number of queues, 8 queues will consume 32 bytes of pci space if 
all you store is the ring pfn.


-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-11-20 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-08  2:46 [PATCH 0/3] virtio PCI driver Anthony Liguori
     [not found] ` <11944899922822-git-send-email-aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08  2:46   ` [PATCH 1/3] Export vring functions for modules to use Anthony Liguori
2007-11-08  2:46     ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]     ` <11944900141678-git-send-email-aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08  2:46       ` [PATCH 2/3] Put the virtio under the virtualization menu Anthony Liguori
2007-11-08  2:46         ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]         ` <11944900152750-git-send-email-aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08  2:46           ` [PATCH 3/3] virtio PCI device Anthony Liguori
2007-11-08  2:46             ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]             ` <11944900163817-git-send-email-aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08  6:12               ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-08  6:12                 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
     [not found]                 ` <4732A8E5.6090307-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08 13:54                   ` Anthony Liguori
2007-11-08 13:54                     ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                     ` <47331531.8070709-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08 14:37                       ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-08 14:37                         ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
     [not found]                         ` <47331F47.70304-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08 15:06                           ` Anthony Liguori
2007-11-08 15:06                             ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                             ` <473325EB.5090907-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08 15:13                               ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-08 15:13                                 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-11-08 23:43                       ` Dor Laor
2007-11-08 23:43                         ` [kvm-devel] " Dor Laor
2007-11-08 15:24               ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-11-08 17:46               ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-11-08 17:46                 ` [kvm-devel] " Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                 ` <200711081846.36821.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-08 19:04                   ` Anthony Liguori
2007-11-08 19:04                     ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                     ` <47335DC6.7090603-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-09 11:03                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-11-09 11:03                         ` [kvm-devel] " Arnd Bergmann
2007-11-09  0:39               ` Dor Laor
2007-11-09  0:39                 ` [kvm-devel] " Dor Laor
     [not found]                 ` <4733AC3A.20701-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-09  2:17                   ` Anthony Liguori
2007-11-09  2:17                     ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2007-11-20 15:01             ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-20 15:43               ` Anthony Liguori
2007-11-20 15:43                 ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                 ` <474300AD.4060509-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-20 16:12                   ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2007-11-20 16:12                     ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                     ` <4743076F.8000105-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-20 22:16                       ` Anthony Liguori
2007-11-20 22:16                         ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                         ` <47435CCB.1050506-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-21  7:13                           ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-21  7:13                             ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
     [not found]                             ` <4743DAA4.70800-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-21 18:22                               ` Zachary Amsden
2007-11-21 18:22                                 ` [kvm-devel] " Zachary Amsden
     [not found]                                 ` <1195669377.6352.247.camel-cxY/u30q8FloTgUnLF1by8fTvwmfpRNyZeezCHUQhQ4@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-22  7:32                                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-22  7:32                                     ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-11-23 16:51                               ` Anthony Liguori
2007-11-23 16:51                                 ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                                 ` <4747051C.3090903-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-23 17:47                                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-23 17:47                                     ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-11-26 19:18                                     ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                                       ` <474B1BF3.20901-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-27  9:02                                         ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-27  9:02                                           ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                           ` <474BDD28.7050801-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-27  9:09                                             ` Carsten Otte
2007-11-27  9:09                                               ` [kvm-devel] " Carsten Otte
     [not found]                                               ` <474BDEDE.6060603-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-27  9:27                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-27  9:27                                                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                   ` <474BE319.502-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-27 10:12                                                     ` Carsten Otte
2007-11-27 10:12                                                       ` [kvm-devel] " Carsten Otte
     [not found]                                                       ` <474BEDAB.3000305-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-27 10:19                                                         ` Avi Kivity
2007-11-27 10:19                                                           ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                                           ` <474BEF28.9010005-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-27 10:28                                                             ` Carsten Otte
2007-11-27 10:28                                                               ` [kvm-devel] " Carsten Otte
     [not found]                                                               ` <474BF157.3080709-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-11-27 13:27                                                                 ` Dor Laor
2007-11-27  9:25                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-11-27  9:25                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-11-27  9:25                                               ` [kvm-devel] " Arnd Bergmann
2007-11-08  6:49           ` [PATCH 2/3] Put the virtio under the virtualization menu Avi Kivity
2007-11-08  6:49             ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity

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