From: "Giacomo A. Catenazzi" <cate@cateee.net>
To: Diego Calleja <diegocg@gmail.com>
Cc: "" <jamagallon@ono.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Kernel Development & Objective-C
Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 11:59:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47568481.50802@cateee.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071204232045.212ba1bf.diegocg@gmail.com>
Diego Calleja wrote:
> El Tue, 4 Dec 2007 22:47:45 +0100, "J.A. Magallón" <jamagallon@ono.com> escribió:
>
>> That is what I like of C++, with good placement of high level features
>> like const's and & (references) one can gain fine control over what
>> gets copied or not.
>
> But...if there's some way Linux can get "language improvements", is with
> new C standards/gccextensions/etc. It'd be nice if people tried to add
> (useful) C extensions to gcc, instead of proposing some random language :)
But nobody know such extensions.
I think that the core kernel will remain in C, because
there are no problems and no improvement possible
(with other language)
But the drivers side has more problems. There is a lot
of copy-paste, quality is often not high, not all developers
know well linux kernel, and not well maintained with new
or better internal API. So if we found a good template
or a good language to help *some* drivers without
causing a lot of problem to the rest of community, it would
be nice.
I don't think that we have written in stone that kernel
drivers should be written only in C, but actually there is
no good alternative.
But I think it is a huge task to find a language, a
prototype of API and convert some testing drivers.
And there is no guarantee of good result.
ciao
cate
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-05 10:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-11-29 12:14 Kernel Development & Objective-C Ben Crowhurst
2007-11-30 10:02 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-11-30 10:09 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2007-11-30 10:20 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-11-30 10:54 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-11-30 14:21 ` David Newall
2007-11-30 23:31 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-11-30 23:40 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-01 0:05 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2007-12-01 18:27 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-12-01 18:18 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-03 1:23 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-11-30 22:52 ` J.A. Magallón
2007-11-30 10:29 ` Loïc Grenié
2007-11-30 11:16 ` Ben Crowhurst
2007-11-30 11:36 ` Karol Swietlicki
2007-11-30 14:37 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-12-08 8:54 ` Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.
2007-11-30 23:19 ` J.A. Magallón
2007-11-30 23:53 ` Nicholas Miell
2007-12-01 0:31 ` Al Viro
2007-12-01 0:34 ` Al Viro
2007-12-01 1:09 ` J.A. Magallón
2007-12-01 19:55 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-04 17:54 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-12-04 21:10 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-04 21:24 ` J.A. Magallón
2007-11-30 11:37 ` Matti Aarnio
2007-11-30 14:34 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-11-30 15:26 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-11-30 18:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-11-30 19:35 ` Kyle Moffett
2007-12-01 20:03 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-02 19:01 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-03 5:12 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-03 9:50 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-03 11:46 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-03 11:50 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-03 21:13 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-12-03 21:39 ` J.A. Magallón
2007-12-03 21:57 ` Alan Cox
2007-12-04 21:47 ` J.A. Magallón
2007-12-04 22:20 ` Diego Calleja
2007-12-05 10:59 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi [this message]
2007-12-04 21:07 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-04 22:43 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-12-05 17:05 ` Micro vs macro optimizations (was: Re: Kernel Development & Objective-C) Avi Kivity
2007-12-03 12:35 ` Kernel Development & Objective-C Gilboa Davara
2007-12-03 12:44 ` Gilboa Davara
2007-12-03 16:28 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-12-04 17:50 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-12-05 10:31 ` Gilboa Davara
2007-12-01 19:59 ` Avi Kivity
2007-12-02 19:44 ` Jörn Engel
2007-12-03 16:53 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-11-30 15:00 ` Chris Snook
2007-12-01 9:50 ` David Newall
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