From: Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Martin Mares <mj@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: [Patch v2] Make PCI extended config space (MMCONFIG) a driver opt-in
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:56:01 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47896FB1.2070707@shaw.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa.O9WUKjAu+MfGg712w8Y4HkQ7GIo@ifi.uio.no>
Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>> Did I miss a bug report? The only problems I'm currently aware of are
>> the ones where using MMCONFIG during BAR probing causes a hard lockup on
>> some Intel machines, and the ones where we get bad config data on some
>> AMD machines due to the configuration retry status being mishandled.
>
> Hmm. Were all those reports root-caused to just that BAR probing? If so,
> we may be in better shape than I worried.
As far as I'm aware, the known MMCONFIG-related issues that I'm aware of
are or have been:
-Some devices built into the AMD K8 integrated northbridge can't be
reached by MMCONFIG - already handled
-Overlap of device BAR and MMCONFIG aperature during BAR sizing causing
lockup - can be avoided by disabling device decode during BAR sizing.
-PCI Express CRS-related issues - already handled by disabling CRS by
default
-Devices behind certain host bridges (some AMD HT to PCI-X bridges,
others?) can't be reached by MMCONFIG - can be handled by Tony Camuso's
patch or something similar (note that this is really a BIOS bug, it
should not list those buses in the MCFG table if MMCONFIG cannot access
them, and if it didn't I think we could already handle that)
-Some issue with some AMD CPUs needing MMCONFIG accesses to use a
certain register I believe? already handled?
Of these, I think the PCI BAR/MMCONFIG overlap problem is responsible
for by far the most cases of machines thought to have "broken MMCONFIG",
when in fact they were nothing of the sort. I don't recall hearing of a
single machine where MMCONFIG really just didn't work at all.
As I've mentioned before, all of these issues (well, I suppose not the
BAR overlap one) need to be resolved whether we have Arjan's patch or
not, otherwise if a driver does opt in and tries to use extended config
space it will still break. And if they are resolved, the patch seems
quite pointless.
--
Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada
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2008-01-14 23:59 ` [Patch v2] Make PCI extended config space (MMCONFIG) a driver opt-in Robert Hancock
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2007-12-27 17:59 ` Robert Hancock
2007-12-27 19:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
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2007-12-27 18:15 ` Robert Hancock
2007-12-27 18:30 ` Kai Ruhnau
2007-12-27 18:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-27 21:10 ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-27 21:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-12-27 21:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-27 21:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-27 22:18 ` Kai Ruhnau
2007-12-28 4:27 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-12-28 5:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-28 6:07 ` Daniel Barkalow
2007-12-28 10:34 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2007-12-28 16:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-28 16:38 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2007-12-28 17:40 ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-28 21:12 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-01-13 6:01 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-13 7:19 ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-28 5:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-12-27 21:59 ` Kai Ruhnau
2007-12-28 5:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-12-28 5:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-12-28 5:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-28 6:06 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-12-28 19:14 ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-28 20:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-12-28 0:18 ` Robert Hancock
2007-12-25 11:26 Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-27 11:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-12-27 14:09 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-12-27 17:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 19:02 ` Greg KH
2008-01-11 19:09 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-11 19:14 ` Greg KH
2008-01-11 19:28 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-11 19:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-11 19:45 ` Greg KH
2008-01-11 19:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-11 19:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 20:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-11 20:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 20:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-11 21:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 21:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-11 21:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-11 21:38 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-11 23:58 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-01-12 0:17 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-01-12 0:26 ` Greg KH
2008-01-12 14:40 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-01-12 15:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-12 16:23 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-01-12 17:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-12 18:17 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-12 21:49 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-01-12 23:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-13 0:12 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-13 0:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-13 1:36 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-13 4:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-13 4:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-13 6:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-01-13 12:43 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-13 17:03 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-13 21:28 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-14 0:54 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-14 1:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-14 3:29 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-14 5:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-14 13:01 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-14 14:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-14 15:23 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-14 16:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-14 16:08 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-14 9:11 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-14 5:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-13 18:23 ` Loic Prylli
2008-01-13 18:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-13 20:43 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-13 21:18 ` Loic Prylli
2008-01-13 20:51 ` Loic Prylli
2008-01-13 7:08 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-13 7:24 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-13 7:58 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-13 17:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-14 22:52 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-14 23:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-15 16:00 ` Loic Prylli
2008-01-15 17:46 ` Greg KH
2008-01-15 17:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-15 19:27 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-15 19:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-01-15 19:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-15 22:12 ` Loic Prylli
2008-01-19 16:58 ` Grant Grundler
2008-01-28 18:32 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-28 20:44 ` Greg KH
2008-01-28 22:31 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-28 22:53 ` Greg KH
2008-01-29 2:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-29 3:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-29 3:18 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-29 13:19 ` Greg KH
2008-01-29 14:15 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-29 14:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-29 15:15 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-29 15:29 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-29 16:26 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-29 23:57 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-30 2:30 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-30 3:45 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-01-30 15:15 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-01-30 15:42 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-30 20:14 ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-01-31 5:51 ` Jesse Barnes
2008-01-11 19:54 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-01-11 20:55 ` Greg KH
2008-01-15 12:58 ` Øyvind Vågen Jægtnes
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