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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>, Yinghai Lu <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: introduce a new Linux defined feature flag for PAT support
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 09:51:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48232F86.7050308@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080508163250.4c7692c6@core>

Alan Cox wrote:
>> For old CPUs it is actually ok (after all they worked for years without
>> PAT), I just don't like it for new CPUs. It's a bad idea there and
>> in the x86 world it is a reasonable expectation that CPU features
>> generally work.
> 
> Agreed 100%. We should default to assuming newer processors work. That
> will be true in almost if not all cases anyway, and since it'll bite
> anyone at Intel/AMD/.. testing new CPU steppings when it is on by default
> any problem cases won't be leaving the labs.

Yes, capping the upper end is an actively bad thing, because it can 
actually *make* bugs appear (by artifically limiting testing by CPU houses.)

	-hpa


  reply	other threads:[~2008-05-08 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-07  1:48 2.6.26, PAT and AMD family 6 Rene Herman
2008-05-07  2:39 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-07 12:46   ` Undocumented and duplicated code Adrian Bunk
2008-05-07 13:14     ` Rene Herman
2008-05-07 20:52     ` 2.6.26, PAT and AMD family 6 Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-07 20:59       ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-07 21:10       ` Rene Herman
2008-05-07 21:41         ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-07 21:46           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-07 22:08             ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-07 22:29               ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-07 22:04           ` Rene Herman
2008-05-07 22:23             ` Rene Herman
2008-05-07 22:31           ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-07 22:57         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-08  0:02           ` Rene Herman
2008-05-08  0:03             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-08  0:10               ` Rene Herman
2008-05-08  0:19                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  0:28                   ` Rene Herman
2008-05-08  1:57                     ` [PATCH] x86: introduce a new Linux defined feature flag for PAT support Rene Herman
2008-05-08  1:58                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  2:11                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-08  2:17                           ` Rene Herman
2008-05-08  2:24                           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  2:28                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-08 12:49                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-08 13:08                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-08 16:44                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-08 13:11                                 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-08 13:33                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-08 14:44                                 ` Rene Herman
2008-05-08 14:53                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-08 16:48                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-08 16:53                                       ` Rene Herman
2008-05-08  2:04                       ` [PATCH] x86: enable PAT support on AMD Duron model 7 Rene Herman
2008-05-08  2:08                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-08  2:12                           ` Rene Herman
2008-05-08 10:19                       ` [PATCH] x86: introduce a new Linux defined feature flag for PAT support Andi Kleen
2008-05-08 12:40                         ` Rene Herman
2008-05-08 13:39                           ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-08 15:32                             ` Alan Cox
2008-05-08 16:51                               ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-05-08  0:21                 ` 2.6.26, PAT and AMD family 6 Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-08  0:30                   ` Rene Herman
2008-05-08  0:15               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-05-08  0:31                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-08 10:14                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-08 16:43                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-07 21:23       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-07 21:54         ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-07 22:09           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-07 22:14           ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-07 22:22             ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-07 22:37               ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-07 22:40                 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-07 23:02                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-07 23:02                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-07 23:10                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-07 23:46                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-07 22:23             ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-07 22:39               ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-07 22:45                 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-07 23:06                   ` Pavel Machek
2008-05-07 23:01               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-07 22:26             ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-07 22:30               ` Rene Herman
2008-05-07 22:58             ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-05-07 13:00   ` Rene Herman
2008-05-07 13:42     ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-07 14:09       ` Rene Herman
2008-05-07 14:24         ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-07 19:08           ` Rene Herman
2008-05-07 22:17             ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-05-07 19:39     ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-05-07 20:06       ` Rene Herman
2008-05-07 20:16         ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-07 20:18           ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-08  4:06             ` H. Peter Anvin

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