From: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>
To: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
Cc: Greg Ungerer <gerg@snapgear.com>, Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
Leon Woestenberg <leon.woestenberg@gmail.com>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org
Subject: cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:23:06 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48513F5A.6010008@am.sony.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200806111941.51221.rob@landley.net>
Rob Landley wrote:
> However, having one or more full-time engineers devoted to debugging
> cross-compile issues is quite a high price to pay too. Moore's law really
> doesn't help that one.
>
> I'm not saying either solution is perfect, I'm just saying the "build under
> emulation" approach is a viable alternative that gets more attractive as time
> passes, both because of ongoing development on emulators and because of
> Moore's law on the hardware.
I agree with much that you have said, Rob, and I understand the argument
for getting the most gain from the least resources, but I have a philosophical
problem with working around the cross-compilation problems instead of fixing
them in the upstream packages (or in the autoconf system itself).
Once someone fixes the cross-compilation issues for a package, they usually
stay fixed, if the fixes are mainlined.
-- Tim
=============================
Tim Bird
Architecture Group Chair, CE Linux Forum
Senior Staff Engineer, Sony Corporation of America
=============================
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2008-04-30 17:42 [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s), linux-embedded@vger list David Woodhouse
2008-04-30 17:44 ` [PATCH 1/1] " David Woodhouse
2008-05-01 9:55 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-05-01 10:05 ` David Woodhouse
2008-05-01 11:12 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-04-30 18:22 ` [PATCH 0/1] " Andi Kleen
2008-04-30 19:11 ` David Woodhouse
[not found] ` <1209582709.25560.441.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-28 21:52 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-09 21:27 ` Leon Woestenberg
2008-06-10 3:53 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-10 4:30 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-10 6:55 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-10 7:54 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-10 9:09 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-06-10 13:12 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-10 13:25 ` Will Newton
2008-06-10 13:33 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-10 13:47 ` Will Newton
2008-06-10 13:53 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-10 14:00 ` Grant Likely
2008-06-10 14:01 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-06-10 14:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-11 5:34 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-10 13:49 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-06-11 5:25 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-12 18:18 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-12 18:55 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-06-12 20:55 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-15 21:48 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-17 14:11 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-10 13:47 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-06-10 10:20 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-10 10:36 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-10 10:50 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-11 5:28 ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-10 17:36 ` Tim Bird
2008-06-11 3:35 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-11 5:47 ` Greg Ungerer
2008-06-12 0:41 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-12 7:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-12 15:23 ` Tim Bird [this message]
2008-06-12 15:50 ` cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...) David Woodhouse
2008-06-12 16:05 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-12 16:08 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-12 16:15 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-12 16:12 ` Robert P. J. Day
2008-06-13 0:25 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-13 1:22 ` Bill Gatliff
2008-06-13 6:55 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 15:06 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 7:04 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-13 15:02 ` linux-embedded-owner
2008-06-13 17:00 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-13 17:12 ` Bill Traynor
2008-06-13 18:44 ` Tim Bird
2008-06-13 18:55 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-13 19:00 ` Bill Traynor
2008-06-13 19:43 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2008-06-13 17:30 ` Makefile debugger linux-embedded-owner
2008-06-13 8:50 ` cross-compiling alternatives Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-13 9:11 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 14:51 ` cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...) Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 7:58 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-16 16:00 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 17:38 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-17 13:57 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 11:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-06-13 11:22 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-06-12 18:29 ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-12 19:02 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-13 13:29 ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-13 13:59 ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-12 16:08 ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-12 16:28 ` Bill Gatliff
2008-06-12 16:31 ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-12 16:38 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-12 18:50 ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-06-12 17:14 ` Bill Gatliff
2008-06-12 17:22 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-12 17:23 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-13 18:01 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-12 16:37 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-12 17:01 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-12 17:19 ` Bill Gatliff
2008-06-12 17:17 ` Bill Gatliff
2008-06-13 11:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-06-13 11:17 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-12 18:34 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-12 19:00 ` Bill Gatliff
2008-06-15 21:51 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-12 18:30 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-12 18:57 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-06-12 16:23 ` Tim Bird
2008-06-12 18:37 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 18:45 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-06-15 23:12 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 8:02 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-16 8:28 ` cross-compiling alternatives Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-16 9:25 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 1:25 ` cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...) Rob Landley
2008-06-13 1:28 ` Robert P. J. Day
2008-06-13 1:29 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-13 6:30 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 18:51 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-06-13 22:25 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-13 23:19 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-06-14 0:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-14 11:26 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-06-16 11:39 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 12:06 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-16 13:32 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 16:28 ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-06-16 22:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 22:44 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-16 5:11 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 11:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 8:33 ` cross-compiling alternatives Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-16 11:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 11:43 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-16 7:55 ` cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...) Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-16 15:15 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-17 6:27 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-17 13:46 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-17 14:22 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-16 4:57 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 11:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 4:31 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 8:13 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-16 8:21 ` cross-compiling alternatives Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-13 3:11 ` cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...) Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-13 18:47 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-06-13 6:43 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 8:38 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-13 9:06 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 9:12 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-13 9:32 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 15:28 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-14 0:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 4:23 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 10:49 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 11:09 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-16 11:52 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 11:59 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-16 16:43 ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-06-13 10:03 ` cross-compiling alternatives Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-13 11:24 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 13:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-13 13:28 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-13 13:40 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 13:56 ` Matthieu CASTET
2008-06-13 14:41 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 14:49 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-13 14:51 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 14:55 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 15:16 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 18:45 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-13 19:10 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-06-16 4:08 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 7:31 ` Peter Korsgaard
2008-06-16 14:33 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 16:45 ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-06-13 19:14 ` cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...) Rob Landley
2008-06-13 15:25 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-12 18:25 ` [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s), linux-embedded@vger list Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-12 21:11 ` David VomLehn
2008-06-12 21:42 ` James Chapman
2008-06-12 21:46 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-12 21:53 ` Tim Bird
2008-06-12 21:56 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-13 8:39 ` James Chapman
2008-06-13 9:02 ` Daniel THOMPSON
2008-06-13 11:28 ` James Chapman
2008-06-12 22:02 ` Jim Freeman
2008-06-13 13:14 ` Samuel Robb
2008-06-13 14:36 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 14:26 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 22:24 ` David VomLehn
2008-06-15 15:39 ` Leon Woestenberg
2008-06-15 21:43 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-23 17:22 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-06-23 18:57 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-23 19:12 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-06-23 19:33 ` Sam Ravnborg
[not found] ` <48190B5F.9010505@am.sony.com>
[not found] ` <20080501095822.GL20451@one.firstfloor.org>
2008-05-01 10:02 ` David Woodhouse
2008-05-01 10:41 ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-02 15:00 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-02 20:01 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-05-02 20:14 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-02 20:33 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-05-02 20:53 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-03 22:24 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-05-05 1:52 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-23 17:28 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-06-23 17:45 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-23 18:19 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-06-23 19:05 ` Tim Bird
2008-06-25 9:50 ` James Chapman
2008-06-25 15:41 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-30 18:26 ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-30 18:43 ` David Woodhouse
2008-04-30 18:45 ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-30 23:34 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-01 7:04 ` David Woodhouse
2008-05-02 11:58 ` Kristoffer Ericson
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