From: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>, Greg Ungerer <gerg@snapgear.com>,
Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
Leon Woestenberg <leon.woestenberg@gmail.com>,
linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:23:19 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48514D77.4060007@am.sony.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1213285831.26255.152.camel@pmac.infradead.org>
David Woodhouse wrote:
>>... fixing
>> them in the upstream packages (or in the autoconf system itself).
>>
>> Once someone fixes the cross-compilation issues for a package, they usually
>> stay fixed, if the fixes are mainlined.
>
> I don't think that's true, unfortunately. Autoconf makes it _easy_ to do
> the wrong thing, and people will often introduce new problems.
If autoconf is the problem (and I think it is), then that's what
should be fixed (see my original post). At a minimum, it would be
nice if it had more built-in detection and warning of techniques
that were dangerous for cross-compilation.
While I was writing the above,
Paul Mundt wrote:
> You can
> either try to fix the packages in question, convince the package
> developers to rip out the parts that cause trouble for your environment,
> fix your own build environment to meet the needs of the packages, or
> whine about it on a mailing list. Empirically we already know which one
> of those options is going to win out. ;-)
LOL. Well, at least Rob has put his money where his mouth is (so to
speak) with Firmware Linux. The chance that I'll do anything but whine
about autoconf is slim indeed... I'll shut up now!
-- Tim
=============================
Tim Bird
Architecture Group Chair, CE Linux Forum
Senior Staff Engineer, Sony Corporation of America
=============================
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-12 16:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 204+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-30 17:42 [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s), linux-embedded@vger list David Woodhouse
2008-04-30 17:44 ` [PATCH 1/1] " David Woodhouse
2008-05-01 9:55 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-05-01 10:05 ` David Woodhouse
2008-05-01 11:12 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-04-30 18:22 ` [PATCH 0/1] " Andi Kleen
2008-04-30 19:11 ` David Woodhouse
[not found] ` <1209582709.25560.441.camel-ZP4jZrcIevRpWr+L1FloEB2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2008-05-28 21:52 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-09 21:27 ` Leon Woestenberg
2008-06-10 3:53 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-10 4:30 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-10 6:55 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-10 7:54 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-10 9:09 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-06-10 13:12 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-10 13:25 ` Will Newton
2008-06-10 13:33 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-10 13:47 ` Will Newton
2008-06-10 13:53 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-10 14:00 ` Grant Likely
2008-06-10 14:01 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-06-10 14:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-11 5:34 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-10 13:49 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-06-11 5:25 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-12 18:18 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-12 18:55 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-06-12 20:55 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-15 21:48 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-17 14:11 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-10 13:47 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-06-10 10:20 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-10 10:36 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-10 10:50 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-11 5:28 ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-10 17:36 ` Tim Bird
2008-06-11 3:35 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-11 5:47 ` Greg Ungerer
2008-06-12 0:41 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-12 7:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-12 15:23 ` cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...) Tim Bird
2008-06-12 15:50 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-12 16:05 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-12 16:08 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-12 16:15 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-12 16:12 ` Robert P. J. Day
2008-06-13 0:25 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-13 1:22 ` Bill Gatliff
2008-06-13 6:55 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 15:06 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 7:04 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-13 15:02 ` linux-embedded-owner
2008-06-13 17:00 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-13 17:12 ` Bill Traynor
2008-06-13 18:44 ` Tim Bird
2008-06-13 18:55 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-13 19:00 ` Bill Traynor
2008-06-13 19:43 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2008-06-13 17:30 ` Makefile debugger linux-embedded-owner
2008-06-13 8:50 ` cross-compiling alternatives Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-13 9:11 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 14:51 ` cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...) Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 7:58 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-16 16:00 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 17:38 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-17 13:57 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 11:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-06-13 11:22 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-06-12 18:29 ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-12 19:02 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-13 13:29 ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-13 13:59 ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-12 16:08 ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-12 16:28 ` Bill Gatliff
2008-06-12 16:31 ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-12 16:38 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-12 18:50 ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-06-12 17:14 ` Bill Gatliff
2008-06-12 17:22 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-12 17:23 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-13 18:01 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-12 16:37 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-12 17:01 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-12 17:19 ` Bill Gatliff
2008-06-12 17:17 ` Bill Gatliff
2008-06-13 11:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-06-13 11:17 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-12 18:34 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-12 19:00 ` Bill Gatliff
2008-06-15 21:51 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-12 18:30 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-12 18:57 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-06-12 16:23 ` Tim Bird [this message]
2008-06-12 18:37 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 18:45 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-06-15 23:12 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 8:02 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-16 8:28 ` cross-compiling alternatives Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-16 9:25 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 1:25 ` cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...) Rob Landley
2008-06-13 1:28 ` Robert P. J. Day
2008-06-13 1:29 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-13 6:30 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 18:51 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-06-13 22:25 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-13 23:19 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-06-14 0:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-14 11:26 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-06-16 11:39 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 12:06 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-16 13:32 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 16:28 ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-06-16 22:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 22:44 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-16 5:11 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 11:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 8:33 ` cross-compiling alternatives Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-16 11:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 11:43 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-16 7:55 ` cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...) Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-16 15:15 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-17 6:27 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-17 13:46 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-17 14:22 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-16 4:57 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 11:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 4:31 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 8:13 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-16 8:21 ` cross-compiling alternatives Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-13 3:11 ` cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...) Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-13 18:47 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-06-13 6:43 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 8:38 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-13 9:06 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 9:12 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-13 9:32 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 15:28 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-14 0:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 4:23 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 10:49 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 11:09 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-16 11:52 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 11:59 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-16 16:43 ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-06-13 10:03 ` cross-compiling alternatives Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-13 11:24 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 13:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-13 13:28 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-13 13:40 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 13:56 ` Matthieu CASTET
2008-06-13 14:41 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 14:49 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-13 14:51 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 14:55 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 15:16 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 18:45 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-13 19:10 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-06-16 4:08 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 7:31 ` Peter Korsgaard
2008-06-16 14:33 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 16:45 ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-06-13 19:14 ` cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...) Rob Landley
2008-06-13 15:25 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-12 18:25 ` [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s), linux-embedded@vger list Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-12 21:11 ` David VomLehn
2008-06-12 21:42 ` James Chapman
2008-06-12 21:46 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-12 21:53 ` Tim Bird
2008-06-12 21:56 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-13 8:39 ` James Chapman
2008-06-13 9:02 ` Daniel THOMPSON
2008-06-13 11:28 ` James Chapman
2008-06-12 22:02 ` Jim Freeman
2008-06-13 13:14 ` Samuel Robb
2008-06-13 14:36 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 14:26 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 22:24 ` David VomLehn
2008-06-15 15:39 ` Leon Woestenberg
2008-06-15 21:43 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-23 17:22 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-06-23 18:57 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-23 19:12 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-06-23 19:33 ` Sam Ravnborg
[not found] ` <48190B5F.9010505@am.sony.com>
[not found] ` <20080501095822.GL20451@one.firstfloor.org>
2008-05-01 10:02 ` David Woodhouse
2008-05-01 10:41 ` Andi Kleen
2008-05-02 15:00 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-05-02 20:01 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-05-02 20:14 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-02 20:33 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-05-02 20:53 ` Andrew Morton
2008-05-03 22:24 ` Randy Dunlap
2008-05-05 1:52 ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-23 17:28 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-06-23 17:45 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-23 18:19 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-06-23 19:05 ` Tim Bird
2008-06-25 9:50 ` James Chapman
2008-06-25 15:41 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-04-30 18:26 ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-30 18:43 ` David Woodhouse
2008-04-30 18:45 ` Josh Boyer
2008-04-30 23:34 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-05-01 7:04 ` David Woodhouse
2008-05-02 11:58 ` Kristoffer Ericson
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=48514D77.4060007@am.sony.com \
--to=tim.bird@am.sony.com \
--cc=dwmw2@infradead.org \
--cc=gerg@snapgear.com \
--cc=leon.woestenberg@gmail.com \
--cc=linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=rob@landley.net \
--cc=sam@ravnborg.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.