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From: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>
To: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
Cc: David Hubbard <david.c.hubbard@gmail.com>,
	Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede@hhs.nl>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Samuel Ortiz <samuel@sortiz.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Milton Miller <miltonm@bga.com>,
	lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org
Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:09:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <487DACBB.6000909@keyaccess.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080716094602.4379e0ff@hyperion.delvare>

On 16-07-08 09:46, Jean Delvare wrote:

> As a conclusion, there is no clear relationship between the presence
> of an ISA or LPC bridge and the presence of a Super-I/O chip. All we
> can say is that apparently all PC systems have an ISA bridge. So
> indeed we can probably make the probes conditional upon the presence
> of an "ISA bridge" PCI device. That's very easy to test. In practice
> it might be equivalent to making the driver x86-only.

And foregoing non (pre-) PCI. Admittedly, that might not be much of an 
issue and I don't know if "Super-I/O" is maybe even defined such as to 
make it a NON issue but I do for example remember my old 386 chipset 
providing for extended serial rates which I thought was way cool back 
then. If that's Super-I/O (or something that should/could be covered by 
the infrastructure at least) then PCI wouldn't be helpful.

Rene.



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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>
To: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
Cc: Samuel Ortiz <samuel@sortiz.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Milton Miller <miltonm@bga.com>,
	lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org,
	Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede@hhs.nl>,
	David Hubbard <david.c.hubbard@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please don't poke super-io without request_region
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:09:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <487DACBB.6000909@keyaccess.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080716094602.4379e0ff@hyperion.delvare>

On 16-07-08 09:46, Jean Delvare wrote:

> As a conclusion, there is no clear relationship between the presence
> of an ISA or LPC bridge and the presence of a Super-I/O chip. All we
> can say is that apparently all PC systems have an ISA bridge. So
> indeed we can probably make the probes conditional upon the presence
> of an "ISA bridge" PCI device. That's very easy to test. In practice
> it might be equivalent to making the driver x86-only.

And foregoing non (pre-) PCI. Admittedly, that might not be much of an 
issue and I don't know if "Super-I/O" is maybe even defined such as to 
make it a NON issue but I do for example remember my old 386 chipset 
providing for extended serial rates which I thought was way cool back 
then. If that's Super-I/O (or something that should/could be covered by 
the infrastructure at least) then PCI wouldn't be helpful.

Rene.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Rene Herman <rene.herman@keyaccess.nl>
To: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
Cc: David Hubbard <david.c.hubbard@gmail.com>,
	Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede@hhs.nl>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Samuel Ortiz <samuel@sortiz.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Milton Miller <miltonm@bga.com>,
	lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please don't poke super-io without request_region
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:09:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <487DACBB.6000909@keyaccess.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080716094602.4379e0ff@hyperion.delvare>

On 16-07-08 09:46, Jean Delvare wrote:

> As a conclusion, there is no clear relationship between the presence
> of an ISA or LPC bridge and the presence of a Super-I/O chip. All we
> can say is that apparently all PC systems have an ISA bridge. So
> indeed we can probably make the probes conditional upon the presence
> of an "ISA bridge" PCI device. That's very easy to test. In practice
> it might be equivalent to making the driver x86-only.

And foregoing non (pre-) PCI. Admittedly, that might not be much of an 
issue and I don't know if "Super-I/O" is maybe even defined such as to 
make it a NON issue but I do for example remember my old 386 chipset 
providing for extended serial rates which I thought was way cool back 
then. If that's Super-I/O (or something that should/could be covered by 
the infrastructure at least) then PCI wouldn't be helpful.

Rene.



  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-16  8:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-10 21:12 [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please don't Milton Miller
2008-07-10 21:12 ` [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please don't poke super-io without request_region Milton Miller
2008-07-10 21:14 ` mtd: remove __PPC__ hardcoded address from nand/diskonchip and devices/docprobe Milton Miller
2008-07-10 21:14 ` [1/3] powerpc: add _HEAD_GLOBAL to place functions in .text.head Milton Miller
2008-07-10 21:16 ` [2/3] powerpc: head_64.S: put irq vectors " Milton Miller
2008-07-10 21:19 ` powerpc: numa.c: always trim to lmb_end_of_DRAM Milton Miller
2008-07-10 21:20 ` powerpc: pseries, cell: use cpu_thread_in_core in smp_init for of_spin_map Milton Miller
2008-07-10 21:22 ` powerpc: find and destroy possible stale kernel added properties Milton Miller
2008-07-10 21:23 ` powerpc: add static and ifdef prom_strtoul and prom_memparse Milton Miller
2008-07-10 21:29 ` [PATCH] spufs: correct kcalloc usage Milton Miller
2008-07-10 23:04   ` Jeremy Kerr
2008-07-10 21:33 ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please Hans de Goede
2008-07-10 21:33   ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please don't poke super-io without request_region Hans de Goede
2008-07-10 21:33   ` Hans de Goede
2008-07-10 21:51   ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please Milton Miller
2008-07-10 21:51     ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please don't poke super-io without request_region Milton Miller
2008-07-10 21:51     ` Milton Miller
2008-07-11  6:52     ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please Jean Delvare
2008-07-11  6:52       ` [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please don't poke super-io without request_region Jean Delvare
2008-07-11  6:52       ` Jean Delvare
2008-07-11  7:27       ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please Hans de Goede
2008-07-11  7:27         ` [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please don't poke super-io without request_region Hans de Goede
2008-07-11  7:27         ` Hans de Goede
2008-07-11  7:36         ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please Jean Delvare
2008-07-11  7:36           ` [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please don't poke super-io without request_region Jean Delvare
2008-07-11  7:36           ` Jean Delvare
2008-07-13  6:31           ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please Hans de Goede
2008-07-13  6:31             ` [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please don't poke super-io without request_region Hans de Goede
2008-07-13  6:31             ` Hans de Goede
2008-07-13 21:11             ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please David Hubbard
2008-07-13 21:11               ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please don't poke super-io without request_region David Hubbard
2008-07-13 21:11               ` David Hubbard
2008-07-13 21:22               ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please Hans de Goede
2008-07-13 21:22                 ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please don't poke super-io without request_region Hans de Goede
2008-07-13 21:22                 ` Hans de Goede
2008-07-13 21:26                 ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please David Hubbard
2008-07-13 21:26                   ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please don't poke super-io without request_region David Hubbard
2008-07-13 21:26                   ` David Hubbard
2008-07-14  7:59                   ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please Jean Delvare
2008-07-14  7:59                     ` [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please don't poke super-io without request_region Jean Delvare
2008-07-14  7:59                     ` Jean Delvare
2008-07-14 17:09                     ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please Milton Miller
2008-07-14 17:09                       ` [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please don't poke super-io without request_region Milton Miller
2008-07-14 17:09                       ` Milton Miller
2008-07-14 17:30                       ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- Hans de Goede
2008-07-14 17:30                         ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please don't poke super-io without request_region Hans de Goede
2008-07-14 17:30                         ` Hans de Goede
2008-07-14 17:55                         ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please David Hubbard
2008-07-14 17:55                           ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please don't poke super-io without request_region David Hubbard
2008-07-14 17:55                           ` David Hubbard
2008-07-15  8:36                           ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please Jean Delvare
2008-07-15  8:36                             ` [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please don't poke super-io without request_region Jean Delvare
2008-07-15  8:36                             ` Jean Delvare
2008-07-15 15:31                             ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please David Hubbard
2008-07-15 15:31                               ` [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please don't poke super-io without request_region David Hubbard
2008-07-15 15:31                               ` David Hubbard
2008-07-16  7:46                               ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please Jean Delvare
2008-07-16  7:46                                 ` [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please don't poke super-io without request_region Jean Delvare
2008-07-16  7:46                                 ` Jean Delvare
2008-07-16  8:09                                 ` Rene Herman [this message]
2008-07-16  8:09                                   ` Rene Herman
2008-07-16  8:09                                   ` Rene Herman
2008-07-15  8:28                       ` [lm-sensors] [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please Jean Delvare
2008-07-15  8:28                         ` [RFC] (almost) booting allyesconfig -- please don't poke super-io without request_region Jean Delvare
2008-07-15  8:28                         ` Jean Delvare
     [not found] ` <for-27-patch9@bga.com>
2008-07-12 20:02   ` [PATCH/RESEND] pci: dynids.use_driver_data considered harmful Milton Miller
2008-07-12 20:17     ` Greg KH
2008-07-12 20:58       ` Jean Delvare
2008-07-12 21:17       ` Milton Miller
2008-07-12 21:29         ` Milton Miller
     [not found]   ` <20080712041137.GA5933@kroah.com>
2008-07-12 21:08     ` [PATCH/RFC] " Milton Miller
2008-07-12 22:48       ` Milton Miller
2008-07-16 10:18         ` Milton Miller
2008-07-17  7:07           ` Greg KH
2008-07-17 14:36             ` Milton Miller
2008-08-06  7:31             ` Jean Delvare
2008-08-14 22:12               ` Greg KH
2008-08-15 14:50                 ` Milton Miller
2008-08-15 15:50                 ` Jean Delvare
2008-08-15 17:46                   ` Jesse Barnes
2008-08-15 18:55                     ` Jean Delvare
2008-08-15 19:15                       ` Jesse Barnes
2008-08-16  6:22                         ` Greg KH
2008-08-17 19:06                           ` Jean Delvare
2008-08-18  3:50                             ` Greg KH
2008-08-18 17:13                             ` Jesse Barnes
2008-08-18 20:41                             ` Jesse Barnes
2008-08-19 18:01                             ` Milton Miller
2008-08-06  7:22           ` Jean Delvare

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