From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: akataria@vmware.com
Cc: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
"avi@redhat.com" <avi@redhat.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Zach Amsden <zach@vmware.com>, Daniel Hecht <dhecht@vmware.com>,
"Jun.Nakajima@Intel.Com" <Jun.Nakajima@Intel.Com>
Subject: Re: Use CPUID to communicate with the hypervisor.
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:58:41 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <48E11751.8070901@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1222710924.30247.21.camel@alok-dev1>
Alok Kataria wrote:
>> Shouldn't you check the hypervisor signature here?
>
> Nope the whole idea of not checking the hypervisor signature is that we
> should keep this interface generic.
Unfortunately, given current evidence this is entirely unrealistic.
> So for instance right now, VMware has defined 40000010 leaf, if either
> kvm/xen think it could be useful they could just define that leaf to
> return nonzero value and the kernel will start using it for them.
> Likewise, if in future either kvm/xen come up with a need to define a
> new CPUID leaf they can define the semantics for that leaf, and the
> corresponding kernel side stuff. If VMware, think that this new leaf is
> useful, we can then support that leaf in our hypervisor or return zero
> otherwise.
This is only true if you can also except M$ and other hypervisor vendors
to stick to it. So far, hypervisor vendors have hardly shown any
inclination toward standardization.
Hence I really don't think it is sane.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-29 18:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-09-26 23:46 Use CPUID to communicate with the hypervisor Alok Kataria
2008-09-27 0:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-27 0:30 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-27 0:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-27 0:59 ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-09-27 1:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-27 4:52 ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-09-29 20:56 ` Karel Zak
2008-09-27 1:02 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-27 1:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-27 3:11 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-27 4:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-27 5:37 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-28 5:01 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-29 9:28 ` Tim Deegan
2008-09-29 9:44 ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-29 6:55 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-09-29 7:37 ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-29 9:08 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2008-09-29 9:33 ` Gleb Natapov
2008-09-29 15:32 ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-09-30 9:16 ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-29 8:24 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-29 17:55 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-29 17:58 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2008-09-29 18:46 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-29 19:38 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-29 20:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-29 20:55 ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-09-29 21:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-29 21:28 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2008-09-29 21:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-29 23:20 ` Zachary Amsden
2008-09-30 0:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-30 0:12 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-30 0:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-30 0:56 ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-09-30 0:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-30 1:14 ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-09-30 2:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-30 3:14 ` Nakajima, Jun
2008-09-30 3:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-09-29 22:46 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-30 0:33 ` Alok Kataria
2008-09-30 8:11 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-30 16:42 ` Zachary Amsden
2008-10-02 11:52 ` Avi Kivity
2008-10-01 4:35 ` [Hypervisors] TSC frequency change Alok Kataria
2008-10-01 9:47 ` Gerd Hoffmann
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