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* [B.A.T.M.A.N.] every phone a hotspot? -> http://www.walkinghotspot.com/
@ 2008-10-20 19:15 M. Peterson
  2008-10-20 19:34 ` Steven Leeman
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From: M. Peterson @ 2008-10-20 19:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking,
	List for Openmoko community discussion
  Cc: green@cherrypal.com

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Here the idea, i posted some weeks ago... every openmoko phone a hotspot
http://www.walkinghotspot.com/
http://translate.google.de/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.golem.de%2F0810%2F63054.html&sl=de&tl=en&hl=de&ie=UTF-8

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* Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] every phone a hotspot? -> http://www.walkinghotspot.com/
  2008-10-20 19:15 [B.A.T.M.A.N.] every phone a hotspot? -> http://www.walkinghotspot.com/ M. Peterson
@ 2008-10-20 19:34 ` Steven Leeman
  2008-10-20 22:03   ` elektra
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From: Steven Leeman @ 2008-10-20 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking

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I've got "joikuspot" installed on my phone (Symbian) ... battery is drained
within 2 hours...
I've heard wmfhotspot for windows mobile is just thesame... and best of all
the HTC brand consumes more energy than it's charger so even with a
powerplug you have no chance :-)


On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:15 PM, M. Peterson <petersonmaxx@googlemail.com>wrote:

> Here the idea, i posted some weeks ago... every openmoko phone a hotspot
> http://www.walkinghotspot.com/
>
> http://translate.google.de/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.golem.de%2F0810%2F63054.html&sl=de&tl=en&hl=de&ie=UTF-8
>
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* Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] every phone a hotspot? -> http://www.walkinghotspot.com/
  2008-10-20 19:34 ` Steven Leeman
@ 2008-10-20 22:03   ` elektra
  2008-10-20 22:30     ` Tony Whelan
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: elektra @ 2008-10-20 22:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking

Hi -
> I've got "joikuspot" installed on my phone (Symbian) ... battery is 
> drained within 2 hours...

this is the crux of current WiFi interfaces in mobile phones. WiFi 
consumes way to much power - especially if a phone forwards traffic for 
other devices. It is possible - but the mobile handset will need to have 
the size and weight of a mobile phone 8 years ago, simply to provide the 
battery capacity. Batman-Experimental has an option to disable routing 
traffic for other phones (--asocial-device : mobile device mode 
reluctant to help others). An "asocial" device will just make itself 
known to the existing mesh infrastructure and use the closest Batman 
node as a gateway. It will only reply to Originator messages originated  
by the chosen gateway. Together with a slow OGM interval you can roam 
within an existing mesh infrastructure without wearing your batteries 
out quickly.

> I've heard wmfhotspot for windows mobile is just thesame... and best 
> of all the HTC brand consumes more energy than it's charger so even 
> with a powerplug you have no chance :-)

That sounds like a miserable design.

Cheers,

elektra


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* Re: [B.A.T.M.A.N.] every phone a hotspot? -> http://www.walkinghotspot.com/
  2008-10-20 22:03   ` elektra
@ 2008-10-20 22:30     ` Tony Whelan
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Tony Whelan @ 2008-10-20 22:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: The list for a Better Approach To Mobile Ad-hoc Networking

The next gen of nanophosphate batteries should help with the power  
issues.

Tony Whelan
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 20, 2008, at 6:03 PM, elektra <onelektra@gmx.net> wrote:

> Hi -
>> I've got "joikuspot" installed on my phone (Symbian) ... battery is  
>> drained within 2 hours...
>
> this is the crux of current WiFi interfaces in mobile phones. WiFi  
> consumes way to much power - especially if a phone forwards traffic  
> for other devices. It is possible - but the mobile handset will need  
> to have the size and weight of a mobile phone 8 years ago, simply to  
> provide the battery capacity. Batman-Experimental has an option to  
> disable routing traffic for other phones (--asocial-device : mobile  
> device mode reluctant to help others). An "asocial" device will just  
> make itself known to the existing mesh infrastructure and use the  
> closest Batman node as a gateway. It will only reply to Originator  
> messages originated  by the chosen gateway. Together with a slow OGM  
> interval you can roam within an existing mesh infrastructure without  
> wearing your batteries out quickly.
>
>> I've heard wmfhotspot for windows mobile is just thesame... and  
>> best of all the HTC brand consumes more energy than it's charger so  
>> even with a powerplug you have no chance :-)
>
> That sounds like a miserable design.
>
> Cheers,
>
> elektra
>
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