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From: Benoit PAPILLAULT <benoit.papillault@free.fr>
To: Felix Fietkau <nbd@openwrt.org>
Cc: Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>,
	Derek Smithies <derek@indranet.co.nz>,
	ath5k-devel@lists.ath5k.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ipw3945-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, wally@theblackmoor.net,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Subject: Re: [ath5k-devel] Unusually low speeds with ath5k and iwl3945
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:46:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <492C55FC.2040506@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <492A7733.2000205@openwrt.org>

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=46elix Fietkau a =E9crit :
> While reading the code for calculating the frame duration, i noticed
> something odd: It doesn't seem to be taking into account the short
> vs long preamble distinction for ERP rates. IMHO this might be causin=
g
> issues like this. I've seen similar behaviour a long time ago when te=
sting
> iwl3945 against a Broadcom AP with exactly the same throughput drop (=
500-
> 600 kbits/s).
> When I analyzed the problem with an extra monitor mode card, I found =
out
> that the throughput drop is caused by a huge number of retransmission=
s,

In the test I've done, there was no retransmission at all (no
duplicates). I don't save a capture file, so I cannot tell for sure.

What is the code computing frame duration you are referring to? How it
could affect the hardware behavior?

> and if I remember correctly (I didn't look for this specifically back=
 then),
> the retransmissions went down the rate scaling table until they hit t=
he
> first non-ERP rate and that one worked on the first try.
>=20
> Johannes, does that sound like a probable cause? If so, it should be =
easy
> to fix.
>=20
> - Felix
>=20

Regards,
Benoit
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From: Benoit PAPILLAULT <benoit.papillault@free.fr>
To: Felix Fietkau <nbd@openwrt.org>
Cc: Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>,
	Derek Smithies <derek@indranet.co.nz>,
	ath5k-devel@venema.h4ckr.net, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	ipw3945-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, wally@theblackmoor.net,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Subject: Re: [ath5k-devel] Unusually low speeds with ath5k and iwl3945
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:46:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <492C55FC.2040506@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <492A7733.2000205@openwrt.org>

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Felix Fietkau a écrit :
> While reading the code for calculating the frame duration, i noticed
> something odd: It doesn't seem to be taking into account the short
> vs long preamble distinction for ERP rates. IMHO this might be causing
> issues like this. I've seen similar behaviour a long time ago when testing
> iwl3945 against a Broadcom AP with exactly the same throughput drop (500-
> 600 kbits/s).
> When I analyzed the problem with an extra monitor mode card, I found out
> that the throughput drop is caused by a huge number of retransmissions,

In the test I've done, there was no retransmission at all (no
duplicates). I don't save a capture file, so I cannot tell for sure.

What is the code computing frame duration you are referring to? How it
could affect the hardware behavior?

> and if I remember correctly (I didn't look for this specifically back then),
> the retransmissions went down the rate scaling table until they hit the
> first non-ERP rate and that one worked on the first try.
> 
> Johannes, does that sound like a probable cause? If so, it should be easy
> to fix.
> 
> - Felix
> 

Regards,
Benoit
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-11-25 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-21 20:28 Unusually low speeds with ath5k and iwl3945 Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-21 20:28 ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-22  0:52 ` Bob Copeland
2008-11-22  0:52   ` Bob Copeland
2008-11-22  3:46   ` [ath5k-devel] " Derek Smithies
2008-11-22  3:46     ` Derek Smithies
2008-11-22 12:33     ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-22 12:33       ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-11-24  7:34       ` Benoit PAPILLAULT
2008-11-24  7:34         ` Benoit PAPILLAULT
2008-11-24  9:43         ` Felix Fietkau
2008-11-24  9:43           ` Felix Fietkau
2008-11-24 10:34           ` Johannes Berg
2008-11-24 10:34             ` Johannes Berg
2008-11-25 19:46           ` Benoit PAPILLAULT [this message]
2008-11-25 19:46             ` Benoit PAPILLAULT
2008-11-25 22:47             ` Felix Fietkau
2008-11-25 22:47               ` Felix Fietkau
2008-11-22 10:16 ` [ipw3945-devel] " Rafał Miłecki
2008-11-22 10:16   ` Rafał Miłecki
2008-12-03 16:55 ` reinette chatre
2008-12-03 16:55   ` reinette chatre
2008-12-03 17:09   ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-03 17:09     ` Maxim Levitsky
2008-12-03 17:36     ` reinette chatre
2008-12-03 17:36       ` reinette chatre

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