* [PATCH] spi: limit reaches -1, tested 0 @ 2009-01-31 11:33 Roel Kluin 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Roel Kluin @ 2009-01-31 11:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: dbrownell-Rn4VEauK+AKRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f Cc: spi-devel-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f With a postfix decrement limit will reach -1 rather than 0, so the warning will not be issued. Signed-off-by: Roel Kluin <roel.kluin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> --- diff --git a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c index 269a55e..a4652f1 100644 --- a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c +++ b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c @@ -779,7 +779,7 @@ static irqreturn_t interrupt_transfer(struct driver_data *drv_data) /* Read trailing bytes */ limit = loops_per_jiffy << 1; - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && --limit); if (limit == 0) dev_err(&drv_data->pdev->dev, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* [PATCH] spi: limit reaches -1, tested 0
@ 2009-02-08 14:18 Roel Kluin
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0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Roel Kluin @ 2009-02-08 14:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: dbrownell; +Cc: spi-devel-general, lkml
With a postfix decrement limit will reach -1 rather than 0,
so the warning will not be issued.
Signed-off-by: Roel Kluin <roel.kluin@gmail.com>
---
diff --git a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c
index 269a55e..a4652f1 100644
--- a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c
+++ b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c
@@ -779,7 +779,7 @@ static irqreturn_t interrupt_transfer(struct driver_data *drv_data)
/* Read trailing bytes */
limit = loops_per_jiffy << 1;
- while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--);
+ while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && --limit);
if (limit == 0)
dev_err(&drv_data->pdev->dev,
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* Re: [PATCH] spi: limit reaches -1, tested 0 2009-02-08 14:18 Roel Kluin @ 2009-02-08 15:55 ` David Brownell 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: David Brownell @ 2009-02-08 15:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Roel Kluin Cc: spi-devel-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f, Andrew Morton, lkml On Sunday 08 February 2009, Roel Kluin wrote: > With a postfix decrement limit will reach -1 rather than 0, > so the warning will not be issued. > > Signed-off-by: Roel Kluin <roel.kluin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> Acked-by: David Brownell <dbrownell-Rn4VEauK+AKRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org> > --- > diff --git a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c > index 269a55e..a4652f1 100644 > --- a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c > +++ b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c > @@ -779,7 +779,7 @@ static irqreturn_t interrupt_transfer(struct driver_data *drv_data) > > /* Read trailing bytes */ > limit = loops_per_jiffy << 1; > - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); > + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && --limit); > > if (limit == 0) > dev_err(&drv_data->pdev->dev, > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] spi: limit reaches -1, tested 0 @ 2009-02-08 15:55 ` David Brownell 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: David Brownell @ 2009-02-08 15:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Roel Kluin; +Cc: spi-devel-general, lkml, Andrew Morton On Sunday 08 February 2009, Roel Kluin wrote: > With a postfix decrement limit will reach -1 rather than 0, > so the warning will not be issued. > > Signed-off-by: Roel Kluin <roel.kluin@gmail.com> Acked-by: David Brownell <dbrownell@users.sourceforge.net> > --- > diff --git a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c > index 269a55e..a4652f1 100644 > --- a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c > +++ b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c > @@ -779,7 +779,7 @@ static irqreturn_t interrupt_transfer(struct driver_data *drv_data) > > /* Read trailing bytes */ > limit = loops_per_jiffy << 1; > - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); > + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && --limit); > > if (limit == 0) > dev_err(&drv_data->pdev->dev, > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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* Re: [PATCH] spi: limit reaches -1, tested 0 2009-02-08 15:55 ` David Brownell @ 2009-02-08 16:28 ` David Brownell -1 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: David Brownell @ 2009-02-08 16:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Roel Kluin Cc: spi-devel-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f, Andrew Morton, lkml On Sunday 08 February 2009, David Brownell wrote: > On Sunday 08 February 2009, Roel Kluin wrote: > > With a postfix decrement limit will reach -1 rather than 0, > > so the warning will not be issued. > > > > Signed-off-by: Roel Kluin <roel.kluin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> > > Acked-by: David Brownell <dbrownell-Rn4VEauK+AKRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org> > > > > > --- > > diff --git a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c > > index 269a55e..a4652f1 100644 > > --- a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c > > +++ b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c > > @@ -779,7 +779,7 @@ static irqreturn_t interrupt_transfer(struct driver_data *drv_data) > > > > /* Read trailing bytes */ > > limit = loops_per_jiffy << 1; > > - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); > > + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && --limit); ... although I wouldn't have resisted the urge to make the loop body be "cpu_relax();" instead of an empty statement. > > > > if (limit == 0) > > dev_err(&drv_data->pdev->dev, > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] spi: limit reaches -1, tested 0 @ 2009-02-08 16:28 ` David Brownell 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: David Brownell @ 2009-02-08 16:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Roel Kluin; +Cc: spi-devel-general, lkml, Andrew Morton On Sunday 08 February 2009, David Brownell wrote: > On Sunday 08 February 2009, Roel Kluin wrote: > > With a postfix decrement limit will reach -1 rather than 0, > > so the warning will not be issued. > > > > Signed-off-by: Roel Kluin <roel.kluin@gmail.com> > > Acked-by: David Brownell <dbrownell@users.sourceforge.net> > > > > > --- > > diff --git a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c > > index 269a55e..a4652f1 100644 > > --- a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c > > +++ b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c > > @@ -779,7 +779,7 @@ static irqreturn_t interrupt_transfer(struct driver_data *drv_data) > > > > /* Read trailing bytes */ > > limit = loops_per_jiffy << 1; > > - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); > > + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && --limit); ... although I wouldn't have resisted the urge to make the loop body be "cpu_relax();" instead of an empty statement. > > > > if (limit == 0) > > dev_err(&drv_data->pdev->dev, > > > > > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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* Re: [PATCH] spi: limit reaches -1, tested 0 2009-02-08 16:28 ` David Brownell @ 2009-02-08 16:50 ` Roel Kluin -1 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Roel Kluin @ 2009-02-08 16:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Brownell Cc: spi-devel-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f, Andrew Morton, lkml >>> - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); >>> + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && --limit); > > ... although I wouldn't have resisted the urge to make the > loop body be "cpu_relax();" instead of an empty statement. Ok, ---------------------------->8-------------------8<----------------------------- With a postfix decrement limit will reach -1 rather than 0, so the warning will not be issued. Signed-off-by: Roel Kluin <roel.kluin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> --- diff --git a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c index 269a55e..15abe61 100644 --- a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c +++ b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c @@ -779,7 +779,8 @@ static irqreturn_t interrupt_transfer(struct driver_data *drv_data) /* Read trailing bytes */ limit = loops_per_jiffy << 1; - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--) + cpu_relax(); if (limit == 0) dev_err(&drv_data->pdev->dev, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] spi: limit reaches -1, tested 0 @ 2009-02-08 16:50 ` Roel Kluin 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Roel Kluin @ 2009-02-08 16:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Brownell; +Cc: spi-devel-general, lkml, Andrew Morton >>> - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); >>> + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && --limit); > > ... although I wouldn't have resisted the urge to make the > loop body be "cpu_relax();" instead of an empty statement. Ok, ---------------------------->8-------------------8<----------------------------- With a postfix decrement limit will reach -1 rather than 0, so the warning will not be issued. Signed-off-by: Roel Kluin <roel.kluin@gmail.com> --- diff --git a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c index 269a55e..15abe61 100644 --- a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c +++ b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c @@ -779,7 +779,8 @@ static irqreturn_t interrupt_transfer(struct driver_data *drv_data) /* Read trailing bytes */ limit = loops_per_jiffy << 1; - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--) + cpu_relax(); if (limit == 0) dev_err(&drv_data->pdev->dev, ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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* Re: [PATCH] spi: limit reaches -1, tested 0 2009-02-08 16:50 ` Roel Kluin @ 2009-02-08 17:26 ` David Brownell -1 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: David Brownell @ 2009-02-08 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Roel Kluin Cc: spi-devel-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f, Andrew Morton, lkml On Sunday 08 February 2009, Roel Kluin wrote: > >>> - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); > >>> + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && --limit); > > > > ... although I wouldn't have resisted the urge to make the > > loop body be "cpu_relax();" instead of an empty statement. > > Ok, > ---------------------------->8-------------------8<----------------------------- > With a postfix decrement limit will reach -1 rather than 0, so the warning will > not be issued. > > Signed-off-by: Roel Kluin <roel.kluin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> Still: Acked-by: David Brownell <dbrownell-Rn4VEauK+AKRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org> > --- > diff --git a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c > index 269a55e..15abe61 100644 > --- a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c > +++ b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c > @@ -779,7 +779,8 @@ static irqreturn_t interrupt_transfer(struct driver_data *drv_data) > > /* Read trailing bytes */ > limit = loops_per_jiffy << 1; > - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); > + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--) > + cpu_relax(); > > if (limit == 0) > dev_err(&drv_data->pdev->dev, > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] spi: limit reaches -1, tested 0 @ 2009-02-08 17:26 ` David Brownell 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: David Brownell @ 2009-02-08 17:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Roel Kluin; +Cc: spi-devel-general, lkml, Andrew Morton On Sunday 08 February 2009, Roel Kluin wrote: > >>> - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); > >>> + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && --limit); > > > > ... although I wouldn't have resisted the urge to make the > > loop body be "cpu_relax();" instead of an empty statement. > > Ok, > ---------------------------->8-------------------8<----------------------------- > With a postfix decrement limit will reach -1 rather than 0, so the warning will > not be issued. > > Signed-off-by: Roel Kluin <roel.kluin@gmail.com> Still: Acked-by: David Brownell <dbrownell@users.sourceforge.net> > --- > diff --git a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c > index 269a55e..15abe61 100644 > --- a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c > +++ b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c > @@ -779,7 +779,8 @@ static irqreturn_t interrupt_transfer(struct driver_data *drv_data) > > /* Read trailing bytes */ > limit = loops_per_jiffy << 1; > - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); > + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--) > + cpu_relax(); > > if (limit == 0) > dev_err(&drv_data->pdev->dev, > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] spi: limit reaches -1, tested 0 2009-02-08 16:50 ` Roel Kluin @ 2009-02-08 17:42 ` Mariusz Ceier -1 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Mariusz Ceier @ 2009-02-08 17:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Roel Kluin Cc: David Brownell, spi-devel-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f, Andrew Morton, lkml Roel Kluin writes in first post: > - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); > + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && --limit); Roel Kluin writes in last post: > - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); > + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--) > + cpu_relax(); so should there be postfix or prefix decrement ? :) Mariusz Ceier ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] spi: limit reaches -1, tested 0 @ 2009-02-08 17:42 ` Mariusz Ceier 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Mariusz Ceier @ 2009-02-08 17:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Roel Kluin; +Cc: David Brownell, spi-devel-general, lkml, Andrew Morton Roel Kluin writes in first post: > - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); > + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && --limit); Roel Kluin writes in last post: > - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); > + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--) > + cpu_relax(); so should there be postfix or prefix decrement ? :) Mariusz Ceier ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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* Re: [PATCH] spi: limit reaches -1, tested 0 2009-02-08 17:42 ` Mariusz Ceier @ 2009-02-08 17:46 ` Roel Kluin -1 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Roel Kluin @ 2009-02-08 17:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mariusz Ceier Cc: David Brownell, spi-devel-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f, Andrew Morton, lkml Mariusz Ceier wrote: > Roel Kluin writes in first post: >> - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); >> + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && --limit); > > Roel Kluin writes in last post: >> - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); >> + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--) >> + cpu_relax(); > > so should there be postfix or prefix decrement ? :) Thanks for spotting, I took the liberty to add David Brownell's Acked-by in this case. ----------------------->8------------------8<--------------------------- With a postfix decrement limit will reach -1 rather than 0, so the warning will not be issued. Signed-off-by: Roel Kluin <roel.kluin-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> Acked-by: David Brownell <dbrownell-Rn4VEauK+AKRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org> --- diff --git a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c index 269a55e..b143e8c 100644 --- a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c +++ b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c @@ -779,7 +779,8 @@ static irqreturn_t interrupt_transfer(struct driver_data *drv_data) /* Read trailing bytes */ limit = loops_per_jiffy << 1; - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && --limit) + cpu_relax(); if (limit == 0) dev_err(&drv_data->pdev->dev, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Create and Deploy Rich Internet Apps outside the browser with Adobe(R)AIR(TM) software. With Adobe AIR, Ajax developers can use existing skills and code to build responsive, highly engaging applications that combine the power of local resources and data with the reach of the web. Download the Adobe AIR SDK and Ajax docs to start building applications today-http://p.sf.net/sfu/adobe-com ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] spi: limit reaches -1, tested 0 @ 2009-02-08 17:46 ` Roel Kluin 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Roel Kluin @ 2009-02-08 17:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mariusz Ceier; +Cc: David Brownell, spi-devel-general, lkml, Andrew Morton Mariusz Ceier wrote: > Roel Kluin writes in first post: >> - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); >> + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && --limit); > > Roel Kluin writes in last post: >> - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); >> + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--) >> + cpu_relax(); > > so should there be postfix or prefix decrement ? :) Thanks for spotting, I took the liberty to add David Brownell's Acked-by in this case. ----------------------->8------------------8<--------------------------- With a postfix decrement limit will reach -1 rather than 0, so the warning will not be issued. Signed-off-by: Roel Kluin <roel.kluin@gmail.com> Acked-by: David Brownell <dbrownell@users.sourceforge.net> --- diff --git a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c index 269a55e..b143e8c 100644 --- a/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c +++ b/drivers/spi/spi_imx.c @@ -779,7 +779,8 @@ static irqreturn_t interrupt_transfer(struct driver_data *drv_data) /* Read trailing bytes */ limit = loops_per_jiffy << 1; - while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && limit--); + while ((read(drv_data) == 0) && --limit) + cpu_relax(); if (limit == 0) dev_err(&drv_data->pdev->dev, ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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