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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Question about usage of RCU in the input layer
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:26:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49C54D60.80306@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090321125115.0a76ac27@infradead.org>

Arjan van de Ven a écrit :
> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:27:46 -0700
> "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:13:54AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>>> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:31:04 -0700
>>> "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>>>>> that'd be throwing out the baby with the bathwater... I'm
>>>>> trying to use the other cpus to do some of the boot work (so
>>>>> that the total goes faster); not using the other cpus would be
>>>>> counter productive to that. (As is just sitting in
>>>>> synchronize_rcu() when the other cpu is working.. hence this
>>>>> discussion ;-)
>>>> OK, so you are definitely running multiple CPUs when the offending
>>>> synchronize_rcu() executes, then?
>>> absolutely. 
>>> (and I'm using bootgraph.pl in scripts to track who's stalling etc)
>>>> If so, here are some follow-on questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1.	How many synchronize_rcu() calls are you seeing on the
>>>> 	critical boot path
>>> I've seen only this (input) one to take a long time
>> Ouch!!!  A -single- synchronize_rcu() taking a full second???  That
>> indicates breakage.
>>
>>>>  and what value of HZ are you running?
>>> 1000
>> K, in absence of readers for RCU_CLASSIC, we should see a handful
>> of milliseconds for synchronize_rcu().
> 
> I've attached an instrumented bootgraph of what is going on;
> the rcu delays are shown as red blocks inside the regular functions
> as they initialize......
> 
> (svg can be viewed with inkscape, gimp, firefox and various other tools)
> 
> 

Interesting stuff...

I thought you mentioned i2c drivers being source of the udelays(),
 but I cant see them in this svg, unless its async_probe_hard ?

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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Question about usage of RCU in the input layer
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:26:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49C54D60.80306@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090321125115.0a76ac27@infradead.org>

Arjan van de Ven a écrit :
> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:27:46 -0700
> "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:13:54AM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>>> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:31:04 -0700
>>> "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>>>>> that'd be throwing out the baby with the bathwater... I'm
>>>>> trying to use the other cpus to do some of the boot work (so
>>>>> that the total goes faster); not using the other cpus would be
>>>>> counter productive to that. (As is just sitting in
>>>>> synchronize_rcu() when the other cpu is working.. hence this
>>>>> discussion ;-)
>>>> OK, so you are definitely running multiple CPUs when the offending
>>>> synchronize_rcu() executes, then?
>>> absolutely. 
>>> (and I'm using bootgraph.pl in scripts to track who's stalling etc)
>>>> If so, here are some follow-on questions:
>>>>
>>>> 1.	How many synchronize_rcu() calls are you seeing on the
>>>> 	critical boot path
>>> I've seen only this (input) one to take a long time
>> Ouch!!!  A -single- synchronize_rcu() taking a full second???  That
>> indicates breakage.
>>
>>>>  and what value of HZ are you running?
>>> 1000
>> K, in absence of readers for RCU_CLASSIC, we should see a handful
>> of milliseconds for synchronize_rcu().
> 
> I've attached an instrumented bootgraph of what is going on;
> the rcu delays are shown as red blocks inside the regular functions
> as they initialize......
> 
> (svg can be viewed with inkscape, gimp, firefox and various other tools)
> 
> 

Interesting stuff...

I thought you mentioned i2c drivers being source of the udelays(),
 but I cant see them in this svg, unless its async_probe_hard ?


  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-21 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-19  4:58 Question about usage of RCU in the input layer Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-19  7:23 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-03-19 14:02   ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-19  8:56 ` Dipankar Sarma
2009-03-19 14:18   ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-20  2:07     ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-20  3:20       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-20  4:45         ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-20  5:28           ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-20  6:01             ` Dipankar Sarma
2009-03-20  6:01               ` Dipankar Sarma
2009-03-20  6:35               ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-20  6:35                 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-20 13:50           ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-20 14:31             ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-20 18:13               ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-21  1:27                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-21  4:58                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-21 18:58                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-21 19:51                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-21 20:26                     ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2009-03-21 20:26                       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-21 21:07                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-21 21:07                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-22  3:40                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-22  3:40                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-22  4:38                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-22  4:38                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-22  4:51                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-22  4:51                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-22  5:18                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-22  5:53                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-22 16:53                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-22 19:46                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-22 20:52                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-22 22:44                                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-22 23:03                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-22 23:16                                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-23  1:27                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-04-03  1:27                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-21 21:13                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-03-20 22:21               ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-21  5:46         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-03-21  9:13           ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-21  9:13             ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-21 18:58             ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-21 18:58               ` Paul E. McKenney

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