From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@crashcourse.ca>,
Hitoshi Mitake <h.mitake@gmail.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: arch/x86/Kconfig selects invalid HAVE_READQ, HAVE_WRITEQ vars
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:02:01 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49EB9F59.4080904@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090419214602.GA21527@elte.hu>
Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> Look at the drivers that define their own wrappers:
>
> #ifndef readq
> static inline unsigned long long readq(void __iomem *addr)
> {
> return readl(addr) | (((unsigned long long)readl(addr + 4)) << 32LL);
> }
> #endif
>
> ... it's the obvious 32-bit semantics for reading a 64-bit value
> from an mmio address. We made that available on 32-bit too.
>
> It's being used ... and has been in use for some time. Where's the
> problem? readl is serializing on all default-ioremap mmio targets on
> x86 so there's no ambiguity in ordering.
>
I think his point is that they're not atomic. For what it's worth,
atomic readq()/writeq() *are* possible with any x86-32 CPU which
supports MMX, but it is very costly to do in the kernel since it
involves touching the FPU state.
For the vast number of users, a non-atomic primitive which is available
for both 32- and 64-bit x86 is a win. For a small number of users,
it'll be confusing, and for a very small minority it's going to be
desirable to have the atomic primitive.
The reason the non-atomic is generally fine is because most device
drivers are inherently single-threaded on a per-hardware device basis.
-hpa
--
H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center
I work for Intel. I don't speak on their behalf.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-19 22:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-19 19:45 arch/x86/Kconfig selects invalid HAVE_READQ, HAVE_WRITEQ vars Robert P. J. Day
2009-04-19 21:12 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-19 21:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-19 22:02 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2009-04-19 22:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-20 0:56 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-20 2:08 ` Robert Hancock
2009-04-20 0:53 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-20 1:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-20 10:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-20 14:47 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-04-20 16:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 8:33 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-04-21 8:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 8:57 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-04-21 15:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-21 17:07 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-21 17:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-21 17:23 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-21 19:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-21 21:11 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-21 21:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-22 0:31 ` David Miller
2009-04-28 19:05 ` [PATCH] x86: Remove readq()/writeq() on 32-bit Roland Dreier
2009-04-29 5:12 ` David Miller
2009-04-29 11:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-29 12:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-29 17:25 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-29 19:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 5:32 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-13 20:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-13 22:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 23:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-14 0:49 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-14 7:19 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-15 23:44 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-17 7:12 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-17 8:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-21 11:35 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-21 11:49 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-13 20:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 21:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-13 21:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 21:31 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 21:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-13 22:06 ` Roland Dreier
2009-05-13 22:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-29 17:21 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-22 0:27 ` arch/x86/Kconfig selects invalid HAVE_READQ, HAVE_WRITEQ vars David Miller
2009-04-22 0:25 ` David Miller
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