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From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Hitoshi Mitake <h.mitake@gmail.com>,
	Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, rpjday@crashcourse.ca,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Remove readq()/writeq() on 32-bit
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 20:49:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A0B6A96.2030008@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A0B5A34.1080301@zytor.com>

H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> Judging from this thread and past, I think people will continue to 
>> complain and get confused, even with the above.
>>
> 
> Do you really think so?  Seems unfortunate, since an API rename would be
> way more invasive.  This is the entirety of the header patch
> (compile-tested using 32-bit allyesconfig).

The header patch does not lessen the confusion, because you cannot look 
at the code and immediately tell what is going on...

Having a single function's behavior change based on #include selection 
is /not/ intuitive at all, particularly for driver writers.  That is 
unlike almost every other Linux API, where functions' behavior stays 
constant across platforms, regardless of magic "under the hood."

That sort of trick is reserved for arch maintainers who know what they 
are doing :)

	Jeff




  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-14  0:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-19 19:45 arch/x86/Kconfig selects invalid HAVE_READQ, HAVE_WRITEQ vars Robert P. J. Day
2009-04-19 21:12 ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-19 21:46   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-19 22:02     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-19 22:35       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-20  0:56         ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-20  2:08           ` Robert Hancock
2009-04-20  0:53     ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-20  1:20       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-20 10:53         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-20 14:47           ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-04-20 16:03             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21  8:33               ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-04-21  8:45                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21  8:57                   ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-04-21 15:44                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-21 17:07                   ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-21 17:19                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-21 17:23                       ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-21 19:09                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-21 21:11                           ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-21 21:16                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-04-22  0:31                               ` David Miller
2009-04-28 19:05                                 ` [PATCH] x86: Remove readq()/writeq() on 32-bit Roland Dreier
2009-04-29  5:12                                   ` David Miller
2009-04-29 11:56                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-29 12:10                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-29 17:25                                         ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-29 19:59                                           ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13  5:32                                             ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-13 20:19                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-13 22:39                                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 23:39                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-14  0:49                                                     ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2009-05-14  7:19                                                       ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-15 23:44                                                         ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-17  7:12                                                           ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-17  8:06                                                             ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-21 11:35                                                               ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-21 11:49                                                                 ` Hitoshi Mitake
2009-05-13 20:42                                               ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 21:05                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-13 21:30                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 21:31                                                     ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-13 21:54                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-05-13 22:06                                                 ` Roland Dreier
2009-05-13 22:29                                                   ` Jeff Garzik
2009-04-29 17:21                                       ` Roland Dreier
2009-04-22  0:27                           ` arch/x86/Kconfig selects invalid HAVE_READQ, HAVE_WRITEQ vars David Miller
2009-04-22  0:25                     ` David Miller

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