From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>
Cc: Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@gmail.com>,
Mike Rapoport <mike@compulab.co.il>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org,
ksummit-2009-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2009-discuss] Representing Embedded Architectures at the Kernel Summit
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:14:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A392469.8040309@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090617150414.GA18525@linux-mips.org>
Ralf Baechle wrote:
>>
>> However, on most systems, even embedded, bringing up memory falls on
>> firmware (sometimes in the form of a boot loader) so Linux rarely sees it.
>
> There are embedded systems were the firmware does not provide a usuable
> memory map or where that is plain broken. Or Linux with some extra init
> code serves as the firmware. Often there is a single serial EEPROM for
> the entire system. If there is an atrocity that can save a penny it will
> be commited at least in the embedded world.
>
"Rarely" is certainly not "never". Quite on the contrary. Also, I
think you can remove "that can save a penny" from your last sentence...
--
H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center
I work for Intel. I don't speak on their behalf.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-17 17:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-02 15:22 Representing Embedded Architectures at the Kernel Summit James Bottomley
2009-06-02 17:29 ` Josh Boyer
2009-06-02 17:42 ` James Bottomley
2009-06-02 17:52 ` David VomLehn
2009-06-02 18:25 ` James Bottomley
2009-06-02 18:51 ` Josh Boyer
2009-06-02 19:30 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-02 20:37 ` [Ksummit-2009-discuss] " James Bottomley
2009-06-02 20:44 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-06-02 21:34 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-06-03 3:35 ` Greg KH
[not found] ` <20090731152617.GW29245@pengutronix.de>
2009-07-31 15:53 ` flicker free booting Robert Schwebel
2009-07-31 18:03 ` David VomLehn
2009-07-31 18:09 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-07-31 18:42 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-08-03 8:19 ` Sascha Hauer
2009-08-03 8:37 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2009-07-31 18:46 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-07-31 19:48 ` Tim Bird
2009-07-31 19:51 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-07-31 20:05 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-08-01 1:26 ` Tim Bird
2009-07-31 19:25 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-08-01 14:25 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-03 0:03 ` [Ksummit-2009-discuss] Representing Embedded Architectures at the Kernel Summit David VomLehn
2009-06-03 0:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-03 1:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-02 22:21 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2009-06-03 6:24 ` [Ksummit-2009-discuss] " Ralf Baechle
2009-06-10 23:13 ` Kumar Gala
2009-06-14 3:48 ` Grant Likely
2009-06-10 23:08 ` Kumar Gala
2009-06-02 17:29 ` Grant Likely
2009-06-02 17:45 ` David VomLehn
2009-06-02 18:46 ` Grant Likely
2009-06-02 17:48 ` James Bottomley
2009-06-03 12:17 ` Mark Brown
2009-06-04 18:18 ` Grant Likely
2009-06-02 21:10 ` Russell King
2009-06-02 21:16 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-06-02 21:16 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-06-04 20:15 ` Grant Likely
2009-06-02 21:16 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-06-02 21:18 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2009-06-02 21:18 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2009-06-03 7:07 ` [Ksummit-2009-discuss] " Ralf Baechle
2009-06-02 21:18 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2009-06-02 21:40 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-06-02 21:40 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-06-02 21:48 ` Russell King
2009-06-02 21:40 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-06-04 20:08 ` Grant Likely
2009-06-04 20:08 ` Grant Likely
2009-06-04 20:08 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` <3340601010994331832@unknownmsgid>
2009-06-04 20:24 ` Grant Likely
2009-06-03 6:53 ` [Ksummit-2009-discuss] " Ralf Baechle
2009-06-03 13:04 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-06-03 13:18 ` Josh Boyer
2009-06-03 13:45 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-06-03 14:11 ` Josh Boyer
2009-06-03 14:06 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2009-06-03 16:19 ` James Bottomley
2009-06-03 17:09 ` Russell King
2009-06-03 18:43 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-03 19:01 ` James Bottomley
2009-06-04 3:11 ` David VomLehn (dvomlehn)
2009-06-04 3:24 ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-04 3:24 ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-04 9:23 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-03 19:08 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-06-10 9:42 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2009-06-16 6:42 ` Mike Rapoport
2009-06-16 8:06 ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-16 8:06 ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-16 12:19 ` [Ksummit-2009-discuss] " Ralf Baechle
2009-06-17 4:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-17 15:04 ` Ralf Baechle
2009-06-17 17:14 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2009-06-16 16:06 ` Grant Likely
2009-06-16 18:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-16 19:28 ` Grant Likely
2009-06-16 20:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-16 20:10 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-16 21:04 ` Grant Likely
2009-06-18 3:05 ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-17 14:31 ` Kumar Gala
2009-06-18 2:51 ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-19 2:59 ` Kumar Gala
2009-06-19 3:00 ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-19 7:53 ` Kumar Gala
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