State of e.V.

State of e.V.

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

Hi folks,

some days ago on LinuxTag, 3/4 of the OpenEmbedded e.V. board had an ad-hoc-
assembly together with some members. I volunteered to take notes and compile 
this letter for you guys.

There were only three major points on the agenda:
I.) Current legal status.
II.) The member situation a.k.a. who can read the statutes ;)
III.) The next OEDEM.

I.) We are finally registered as e.V., we have tax excemption status (yay!), we 
are in the process of opening a bank account.

II.) The member situation.
We read the germans statutes again and the translation as provided by KDE e.V. 
We agreed that the facts are clearly stated there and leave no room for 
interpretation. I will explain now for non-lawyers how -- according to the 
statutes -- the e.V. can recruit members:

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Acquiring a new member is a two phase process. First phase is 'proposal', 
second phase is 'approval'. For the proposal phase to succeed, an aspirant has 
to be proposed by an active member with two more members supporting the 
proposal.

For the second phase to succeed, there are two ways to approve a new member:
a) per accepted request in a general assembly,
b) per internet voting. The modalities are up to the bylaws as agreed by the 
members during a general assembly (note the scent of recursion here ;)
==============

This means that our previous member acquiring procedure was not compliant w/ 
our statutes, hence it is void.

To move forward with the e.V. we need to:

1.) Rollback the member situation back to the state of the founding assembly. 
I will remove everyone but said members from the openembedded-members list.

2.) Decide on the internet voting system. Our recommendation is to use the KDE 
voting system which is pretty sane. As our internet voting is not done yet 
(note the chicken and egg problem here), this _has_ to be decided in a general 
assembly.

4.) To escape the chicken and egg problem we will have to hold a general 
assembly asap.

5.) The general assembly will elect a voting officer who will take the already 
porposed members, so that we can vote for all of them in one round.

6.) Then we can move on with deciding about membership fees, newspaper, 
raisung funds, etc.

III) OEDEM.

It's been a while since we had the last OE Developers Meeting. A lot of things 
have happened and decisions have to be made. It's very important that we hold 
this asap. To get the most out of it, we will also hold this in conjunction 
with the 2nd general assembly.

We have proposed three weekends. If anyone of you could open a doodle for 
that, I'd be grateful:

* 12/13 Sept.
* 17/18 Oct.
* 7/8 Nov.

We also do not have a place yet. Berlin, Frankfurt, or somewhere else?

Cheers,

:M:

Re: State of e.V.

[Marcin Juszkiewicz]

Dnia środa, 1 lipca 2009 o 20:21:55 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer napisał(a):

> III) OEDEM.

> We have proposed three weekends. If anyone of you could open a doodle
> for that, I'd be grateful:

> * 17/18 Oct.

This one will be tricky for those who plans to attend ELC which is 15-16 
Oct in Grenoble, France.

Regards, 
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Re: State of e.V.

[Florian Boor]

Hi,

Marcin Juszkiewicz schrieb:
> This one will be tricky for those who plans to attend ELC which is 15-16 
> Oct in Grenoble, France.

it might be worth to consider combining these events. Of course we would have to 
find someone to host OEDEM in or close to Grenoble-

Greetings

Florian


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Re: [Openembedded-members] State of e.V.

[Phil Blundell]

On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 20:06 +0100, Liam Girdwood wrote:
> Speaking wrt the current economic climate, I would like to suggest
> FOSDEM 2010 as another alternative weekend. I know atm some folks are
> finding it difficult to justify any travel (esp when there is pressure
> on reducing costs atm). We could schedule a day before or after FOSDEM
> and save on travel costs and it would make any management sign off
> easier too.

FOSDEM 2010 is still six months away.  I think it'd be a shame to leave
the e.V. in its current, partially-paralysed state until then.

Anyway, I created a doodle poll for the three dates that Mickey
suggested:

http://doodle.com/gzyqwa9ia4zw7vf4

p.

Re: [Openembedded-members] State of e.V.

[Florian Boor]

Hi,

Phil Blundell schrieb:
> FOSDEM 2010 is still six months away.  I think it'd be a shame to leave
> the e.V. in its current, partially-paralysed state until then.

yes this is true. I would like to sort out this as soon as possible. Apart from
the fact that it really time for a new OEDEM. This shouldn't stop us from making
another OE meeting at FOSDEM of course...

> Anyway, I created a doodle poll for the three dates that Mickey
> suggested:

That's a very good idea!

Greetings

Florian

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Re: [Openembedded-members] State of e.V.

[Phil Blundell]

On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 21:13 +0100, Phil Blundell wrote:
> FOSDEM 2010 is still six months away.  I think it'd be a shame to leave
> the e.V. in its current, partially-paralysed state until then.
> 
> Anyway, I created a doodle poll for the three dates that Mickey
> suggested:
> 
> http://doodle.com/gzyqwa9ia4zw7vf4

Looks like Nov 7/8 is the favourite.  As for location, Frankfurt would
suit me fine.

p.

Re: [Openembedded-members] State of e.V.

[Philip Balister]

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Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> 4.) To escape the chicken and egg problem we will have to hold a general 
> assembly asap.
> 
> 5.) The general assembly will elect a voting officer who will take the already 
> porposed members, so that we can vote for all of them in one round.
> 
> 6.) Then we can move on with deciding about membership fees, newspaper, 
> raisung funds, etc.

I believe we can hold a General Assembly before OEDEM. (The following 
should be verified by someone who can read the statutes natively)

I believe we can announce the General Assembly and organize it somewhere 
easy for several of the founding members. In the announcement, we 
propose two items, internet voting, and adding members. Then members 
that cannot attend in person can provide proxies.

If this works, then we can get moving on organization issues, without 
waiting for OEDEM

Philip

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Re: [Openembedded-members] State of e.V.

[Florian Boor]

Philip Balister schrieb:

> If this works, then we can get moving on organization issues, without
> waiting for OEDEM

+1 from me

We might want to evaluate if we can agree on a voting system without a formal
assembly and verify this decision later on.

Greetings

Florian


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