From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: "Ira W. Snyder" <iws@ovro.caltech.edu>
Cc: Gregory Haskins <gregory.haskins@gmail.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, linux-mm@kvack.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, hpa@zytor.com,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
s.hetze@linux-ag.com, alacrityvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCHv5 3/3] vhost_net: a kernel-level virtio server
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:43:47 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ABC74B3.9070102@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090924192754.GA14341@ovro.caltech.edu>
On 09/24/2009 10:27 PM, Ira W. Snyder wrote:
>>> Ira can make ira-bus, and ira-eventfd, etc, etc.
>>>
>>> Each iteration will invariably introduce duplicated parts of the stack.
>>>
>>>
>> Invariably? Use libraries (virtio-shmem.ko, libvhost.so).
>>
>>
> Referencing libraries that don't yet exist doesn't seem like a good
> argument against vbus from my point of view. I'm not speficially
> advocating for vbus; I'm just letting you know how it looks to another
> developer in the trenches.
>
My argument is that we shouldn't write a new framework instead of fixing
or extending an existing one.
> If you'd like to see the amount of duplication present, look at the code
> I'm currently working on.
Yes, virtio-phys-guest looks pretty much duplicated. Looks like it
should be pretty easy to deduplicate.
> It mostly works at this point, though I
> haven't finished my userspace, nor figured out how to actually transfer
> data.
>
> The current question I have (just to let you know where I am in
> development) is:
>
> I have the physical address of the remote data, but how do I get it into
> a userspace buffer, so I can pass it to tun?
>
vhost does guest physical address to host userspace address (it your
scenario, remote physical to local virtual) using a table of memory
slots; there's an ioctl that allows userspace to initialize that table.
--
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.
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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: "Ira W. Snyder" <iws@ovro.caltech.edu>
Cc: Gregory Haskins <gregory.haskins@gmail.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu, linux-mm@kvack.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, hpa@zytor.com,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
s.hetze@linux-ag.com, alacrityvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCHv5 3/3] vhost_net: a kernel-level virtio server
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:43:47 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ABC74B3.9070102@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090924192754.GA14341@ovro.caltech.edu>
On 09/24/2009 10:27 PM, Ira W. Snyder wrote:
>>> Ira can make ira-bus, and ira-eventfd, etc, etc.
>>>
>>> Each iteration will invariably introduce duplicated parts of the stack.
>>>
>>>
>> Invariably? Use libraries (virtio-shmem.ko, libvhost.so).
>>
>>
> Referencing libraries that don't yet exist doesn't seem like a good
> argument against vbus from my point of view. I'm not speficially
> advocating for vbus; I'm just letting you know how it looks to another
> developer in the trenches.
>
My argument is that we shouldn't write a new framework instead of fixing
or extending an existing one.
> If you'd like to see the amount of duplication present, look at the code
> I'm currently working on.
Yes, virtio-phys-guest looks pretty much duplicated. Looks like it
should be pretty easy to deduplicate.
> It mostly works at this point, though I
> haven't finished my userspace, nor figured out how to actually transfer
> data.
>
> The current question I have (just to let you know where I am in
> development) is:
>
> I have the physical address of the remote data, but how do I get it into
> a userspace buffer, so I can pass it to tun?
>
vhost does guest physical address to host userspace address (it your
scenario, remote physical to local virtual) using a table of memory
slots; there's an ioctl that allows userspace to initialize that table.
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2009-08-27 16:06 ` [PATCHv5 1/3] mm: export use_mm/unuse_mm to modules Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-27 16:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-27 16:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-27 16:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-28 15:31 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-28 15:31 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-08-27 16:07 ` [PATCHv5 2/3] mm: reduce atomic use on use_mm fast path Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-27 16:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-27 16:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-27 16:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-27 16:07 ` [PATCHv5 3/3] vhost_net: a kernel-level virtio server Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-27 16:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-27 16:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-08-27 16:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-03 18:39 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-03 18:39 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-07 10:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-07 10:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-08 17:20 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-08 17:20 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-08 20:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-08 20:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-08 20:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-11 15:17 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-09-11 15:17 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-09-11 15:17 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-09-13 5:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-13 5:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-13 5:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-14 5:57 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-09-14 5:57 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-09-14 7:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-14 7:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-14 7:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-14 5:57 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-09-11 16:00 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-11 16:14 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-11 16:14 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-13 12:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-13 12:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-14 16:08 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-14 16:08 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-14 16:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-14 16:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-14 16:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-14 19:14 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-14 19:14 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 12:35 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-15 12:35 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-15 12:35 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-15 13:03 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 13:03 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 13:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-15 13:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-15 13:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-15 13:50 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 14:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 14:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 14:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 15:03 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-15 15:03 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-15 20:08 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 20:08 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 20:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 20:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 20:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 20:43 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 21:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 21:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 21:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 21:39 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 21:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 21:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 21:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-15 21:55 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 21:55 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 21:39 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-16 14:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-16 14:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-16 15:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-16 15:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-16 15:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-16 15:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-16 16:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-16 16:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-16 16:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-16 15:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-16 15:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-16 14:57 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-15 20:43 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-16 8:23 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-16 8:23 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-16 11:44 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-16 11:44 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-16 13:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-16 13:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-16 13:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-16 14:10 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-16 14:10 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-16 14:10 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-16 15:59 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-16 15:59 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-16 19:22 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-16 21:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-16 21:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-16 21:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-17 3:11 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-17 3:11 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-17 7:49 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-17 7:49 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-17 7:49 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-17 14:16 ` Javier Guerra
2009-09-17 14:16 ` Javier Guerra
2009-09-17 14:16 ` Javier Guerra
2009-09-21 21:43 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-21 21:43 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-21 21:43 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-22 9:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-22 9:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-22 15:25 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-22 15:25 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-22 15:56 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-22 15:56 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-22 15:56 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-22 15:25 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-23 14:26 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-23 14:26 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-23 14:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-23 14:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-23 14:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-23 15:10 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-23 15:10 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-23 17:58 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-23 17:58 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-23 19:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-23 19:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-23 21:15 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-24 7:18 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-24 7:18 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-24 7:18 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-24 18:03 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-25 8:22 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-25 8:22 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-25 8:22 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-25 21:32 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-25 21:32 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-27 9:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-27 9:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-27 9:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30 20:04 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-10-01 8:34 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-01 8:34 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-01 8:34 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-01 9:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-01 9:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-01 9:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-01 19:24 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-10-03 10:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-03 10:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-03 10:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-01 19:24 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-10-01 8:34 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30 20:04 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-24 18:03 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-24 19:27 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-24 19:27 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-25 7:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-25 7:43 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-09-25 7:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-24 19:27 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-23 21:15 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-24 8:03 ` Avi Kivity
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2009-09-24 18:04 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-24 18:04 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-24 8:03 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-23 19:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-22 9:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-16 19:22 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-16 15:59 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-17 3:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-17 3:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-17 4:13 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-17 4:13 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-17 3:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-16 8:23 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-15 15:03 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-15 13:50 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-15 12:32 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-15 12:32 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-15 12:32 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-14 16:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-14 16:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-14 19:28 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-14 19:28 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-14 16:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-13 12:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-11 16:00 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-09-08 17:20 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-07 10:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-03 18:39 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-25 17:01 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-25 17:01 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-09-27 7:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-27 7:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-27 7:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-25 17:01 ` Ira W. Snyder
[not found] <E88DD564E9DC5446A76B2B47C3BCCA150219600F9B@pdsmsx503.ccr.corp.intel.com>
2009-08-31 11:42 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-08-31 11:42 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-08-31 11:42 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-08-31 15:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-31 15:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-08-31 15:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-09-01 14:58 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-09-01 14:58 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-09-01 14:58 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-08-31 17:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-31 17:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-31 21:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-31 21:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-31 21:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-01 15:37 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-09-01 15:37 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-09-01 15:37 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-09-01 5:04 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-09-01 5:04 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-09-01 5:04 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-08-31 17:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-08-31 11:42 ` Xin, Xiaohui
2009-08-31 11:42 ` Xin, Xiaohui
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