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From: "Vedran Furač" <vedran.furac@gmail.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	minchan.kim@gmail.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Memory overcommit
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:01:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AE97618.6060607@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0910290132320.11476@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

David Rientjes wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, Vedran Furac wrote:
> 
>>> We would know if you posted the data.
>> I need to find some free time to destroy a session on a computer which I
>> use for work. You could easily test it yourself also as this doesn't
>> happen only to me.
>>
>> Anyways, here it is... this time it started with ntpd:
>>
>> http://pastebin.com/f3f9674a0
>>
> 
> That oom log shows 12 ooms but no tasks actually appear to be getting 
> killed (there're no "Killed process 1234 (task)" found).  Do you have any 
> idea why?

That's /var/log/messages. I posted it and not dmesg because whole log
didn't fit dmesg buffer, here is waht i have (compare timestamps):

% dmesg|grep -i kill

[ 1493.064458] Out of memory: kill process 6304 (kdeinit4) score 1190231
or a child
[ 1493.064467] Killed process 6409 (konqueror)
[ 1493.261149] knotify4 invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0,
oomkilladj=0
[ 1493.261166]  [<ffffffff810d6dd7>] ? oom_kill_process+0x9a/0x264
[ 1493.276528] Out of memory: kill process 6304 (kdeinit4) score 1161265
or a child
[ 1493.276538] Killed process 6411 (krusader)
[ 1499.221160] akregator invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0,
oomkilladj=0
[ 1499.221178]  [<ffffffff810d6dd7>] ? oom_kill_process+0x9a/0x264
[ 1499.236431] Out of memory: kill process 6304 (kdeinit4) score 1067593
or a child
[ 1499.236441] Killed process 6412 (irexec)
[ 1499.370192] firefox-bin invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da,
order=0, oomkilladj=0
[ 1499.370209]  [<ffffffff810d6dd7>] ? oom_kill_process+0x9a/0x264
[ 1499.385417] Out of memory: kill process 6304 (kdeinit4) score 1066861
or a child
[ 1499.385427] Killed process 6420 (xchm)
[ 1499.458304] kio_file invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0,
oomkilladj=0
[ 1499.458333]  [<ffffffff810d6dd7>] ? oom_kill_process+0x9a/0x264
[ 1499.458367]  [<ffffffff81120900>] ? d_kill+0x5c/0x7c
[ 1499.473573] Out of memory: kill process 6304 (kdeinit4) score 1043690
or a child
[ 1499.473582] Killed process 6425 (kio_file)
[ 1500.250746] korgac invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0,
oomkilladj=0
[ 1500.250765]  [<ffffffff810d6dd7>] ? oom_kill_process+0x9a/0x264
[ 1500.266186] Out of memory: kill process 6304 (kdeinit4) score 1020350
or a child
[ 1500.266196] Killed process 6464 (icedove)
[ 1500.349355] syslog-ng invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0,
oomkilladj=0
[ 1500.349371]  [<ffffffff810d6dd7>] ? oom_kill_process+0x9a/0x264
[ 1500.364689] Out of memory: kill process 6304 (kdeinit4) score 1019864
or a child
[ 1500.364699] Killed process 6477 (kio_http)
[ 1500.452151] kded4 invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0,
oomkilladj=0
[ 1500.452167]  [<ffffffff810d6dd7>] ? oom_kill_process+0x9a/0x264
[ 1500.452196]  [<ffffffff81120900>] ? d_kill+0x5c/0x7c
[ 1500.467307] Out of memory: kill process 6304 (kdeinit4) score 993142
or a child
[ 1500.467316] Killed process 6478 (kio_http)
[ 1500.780222] akregator invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0,
oomkilladj=0
[ 1500.780239]  [<ffffffff810d6dd7>] ? oom_kill_process+0x9a/0x264
[ 1500.796280] Out of memory: kill process 6304 (kdeinit4) score 966331
or a child
[ 1500.796290] Killed process 6484 (kio_http)
[ 1501.065374] syslog-ng invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0,
oomkilladj=0
[ 1501.065390]  [<ffffffff810d6dd7>] ? oom_kill_process+0x9a/0x264
[ 1501.080579] Out of memory: kill process 6304 (kdeinit4) score 939434
or a child
[ 1501.080587] Killed process 6486 (kio_http)
[ 1501.381188] knotify4 invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0,
oomkilladj=0
[ 1501.381204]  [<ffffffff810d6dd7>] ? oom_kill_process+0x9a/0x264
[ 1501.396338] Out of memory: kill process 6304 (kdeinit4) score 912691
or a child
[ 1501.396346] Killed process 6487 (firefox-bin)
[ 1502.661294] icedove-bin invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da,
order=0, oomkilladj=0
[ 1502.661311]  [<ffffffff810d6dd7>] ? oom_kill_process+0x9a/0x264
[ 1502.676563] Out of memory: kill process 7580 (test) score 708945 or a
child
[ 1502.676575] Killed process 7580 (test)


> Can you explain why Xorg is preferred as a baseline to kill rather than 
> krunner in your example?

Krunner is a small app for running other apps and do similar things. It
shouldn't use a lot of memory. OTOH, Xorg has to hold all the pixmaps
and so on. That was expected result. Fist Xorg, then firefox and
thunderbird.



WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Vedran Furač" <vedran.furac@gmail.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	minchan.kim@gmail.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Memory overcommit
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:01:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AE97618.6060607@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0910290132320.11476@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

David Rientjes wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, Vedran Furac wrote:
> 
>>> We would know if you posted the data.
>> I need to find some free time to destroy a session on a computer which I
>> use for work. You could easily test it yourself also as this doesn't
>> happen only to me.
>>
>> Anyways, here it is... this time it started with ntpd:
>>
>> http://pastebin.com/f3f9674a0
>>
> 
> That oom log shows 12 ooms but no tasks actually appear to be getting 
> killed (there're no "Killed process 1234 (task)" found).  Do you have any 
> idea why?

That's /var/log/messages. I posted it and not dmesg because whole log
didn't fit dmesg buffer, here is waht i have (compare timestamps):

% dmesg|grep -i kill

[ 1493.064458] Out of memory: kill process 6304 (kdeinit4) score 1190231
or a child
[ 1493.064467] Killed process 6409 (konqueror)
[ 1493.261149] knotify4 invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0,
oomkilladj=0
[ 1493.261166]  [<ffffffff810d6dd7>] ? oom_kill_process+0x9a/0x264
[ 1493.276528] Out of memory: kill process 6304 (kdeinit4) score 1161265
or a child
[ 1493.276538] Killed process 6411 (krusader)
[ 1499.221160] akregator invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0,
oomkilladj=0
[ 1499.221178]  [<ffffffff810d6dd7>] ? oom_kill_process+0x9a/0x264
[ 1499.236431] Out of memory: kill process 6304 (kdeinit4) score 1067593
or a child
[ 1499.236441] Killed process 6412 (irexec)
[ 1499.370192] firefox-bin invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da,
order=0, oomkilladj=0
[ 1499.370209]  [<ffffffff810d6dd7>] ? oom_kill_process+0x9a/0x264
[ 1499.385417] Out of memory: kill process 6304 (kdeinit4) score 1066861
or a child
[ 1499.385427] Killed process 6420 (xchm)
[ 1499.458304] kio_file invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0,
oomkilladj=0
[ 1499.458333]  [<ffffffff810d6dd7>] ? oom_kill_process+0x9a/0x264
[ 1499.458367]  [<ffffffff81120900>] ? d_kill+0x5c/0x7c
[ 1499.473573] Out of memory: kill process 6304 (kdeinit4) score 1043690
or a child
[ 1499.473582] Killed process 6425 (kio_file)
[ 1500.250746] korgac invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0,
oomkilladj=0
[ 1500.250765]  [<ffffffff810d6dd7>] ? oom_kill_process+0x9a/0x264
[ 1500.266186] Out of memory: kill process 6304 (kdeinit4) score 1020350
or a child
[ 1500.266196] Killed process 6464 (icedove)
[ 1500.349355] syslog-ng invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0,
oomkilladj=0
[ 1500.349371]  [<ffffffff810d6dd7>] ? oom_kill_process+0x9a/0x264
[ 1500.364689] Out of memory: kill process 6304 (kdeinit4) score 1019864
or a child
[ 1500.364699] Killed process 6477 (kio_http)
[ 1500.452151] kded4 invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0,
oomkilladj=0
[ 1500.452167]  [<ffffffff810d6dd7>] ? oom_kill_process+0x9a/0x264
[ 1500.452196]  [<ffffffff81120900>] ? d_kill+0x5c/0x7c
[ 1500.467307] Out of memory: kill process 6304 (kdeinit4) score 993142
or a child
[ 1500.467316] Killed process 6478 (kio_http)
[ 1500.780222] akregator invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0,
oomkilladj=0
[ 1500.780239]  [<ffffffff810d6dd7>] ? oom_kill_process+0x9a/0x264
[ 1500.796280] Out of memory: kill process 6304 (kdeinit4) score 966331
or a child
[ 1500.796290] Killed process 6484 (kio_http)
[ 1501.065374] syslog-ng invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0,
oomkilladj=0
[ 1501.065390]  [<ffffffff810d6dd7>] ? oom_kill_process+0x9a/0x264
[ 1501.080579] Out of memory: kill process 6304 (kdeinit4) score 939434
or a child
[ 1501.080587] Killed process 6486 (kio_http)
[ 1501.381188] knotify4 invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0,
oomkilladj=0
[ 1501.381204]  [<ffffffff810d6dd7>] ? oom_kill_process+0x9a/0x264
[ 1501.396338] Out of memory: kill process 6304 (kdeinit4) score 912691
or a child
[ 1501.396346] Killed process 6487 (firefox-bin)
[ 1502.661294] icedove-bin invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da,
order=0, oomkilladj=0
[ 1502.661311]  [<ffffffff810d6dd7>] ? oom_kill_process+0x9a/0x264
[ 1502.676563] Out of memory: kill process 7580 (test) score 708945 or a
child
[ 1502.676575] Killed process 7580 (test)


> Can you explain why Xorg is preferred as a baseline to kill rather than 
> krunner in your example?

Krunner is a small app for running other apps and do similar things. It
shouldn't use a lot of memory. OTOH, Xorg has to hold all the pixmaps
and so on. That was expected result. Fist Xorg, then firefox and
thunderbird.


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  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-29 11:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 162+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-12 11:51 Memory overcommit Vedran Furač
2009-10-13  3:08 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-13 17:13   ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-14  4:51     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-20 21:52       ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-26  1:55         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-26 16:16           ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-26 16:16             ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-27  3:22             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27  3:22               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27  6:10               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-27  6:10                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-27  6:34                 ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27  6:34                   ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27  6:36                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27  6:36                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27  6:55                     ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27  6:55                       ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27  7:45                       ` [RFC][PATCH] oom_kill: avoid depends on total_vm and use real RSS/swap value for oom_score (Re: " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27  7:45                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27  7:56                         ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27  7:56                           ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27 12:38                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-27 12:38                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-28  0:22                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28  0:22                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28  0:45                               ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28  0:45                                 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-27  7:56                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27  7:56                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27  8:14                           ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27  8:14                             ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27  8:33                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27  8:33                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27  8:52                               ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27  8:52                                 ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27  8:56                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27  8:56                                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 17:41                         ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-27 17:41                           ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28  0:13                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28  0:13                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27 18:39                         ` Hugh Dickins
2009-10-27 18:39                           ` Hugh Dickins
2009-10-27 18:47                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-27 18:47                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-28  0:32                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28  0:32                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-05 19:02                             ` Pavel Machek
2009-11-05 19:02                               ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-28  0:28                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28  0:28                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-27  6:46                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-27  6:46                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-27  6:56                     ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27  6:56                       ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-27 17:12               ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-27 17:12                 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-27 18:02                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-27 18:30                   ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-27 18:30                     ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-27 20:44               ` Hugh Dickins
2009-10-27 20:44                 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-10-27 21:04                 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-27 21:04                   ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28  0:08                   ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28  0:08                     ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28  0:25                     ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28  0:25                       ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28  0:39                       ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28  0:39                         ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28  4:08                         ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28  4:08                           ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28  4:55                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28  4:55                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28  5:13                             ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28  5:13                               ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28  6:05                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28  6:05                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28  6:17                                 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28  6:17                                   ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28  6:20                                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28  6:20                                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-29  8:38                                     ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29  8:38                                       ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 11:11                                       ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-29 11:11                                         ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-29 19:53                                         ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 19:53                                           ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 23:48                                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-29 23:48                                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-30  9:10                                             ` David Rientjes
2009-10-30  9:10                                               ` David Rientjes
2009-10-30  9:36                                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-30  9:36                                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-30 10:49                                                 ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-11-03 20:49                                                 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-03 20:49                                                   ` David Rientjes
2009-11-04  0:50                                                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-04  0:50                                                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-04  1:58                                                     ` David Rientjes
2009-11-04  1:58                                                       ` David Rientjes
2009-11-04  2:17                                                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-04  2:17                                                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-04  3:10                                                         ` David Rientjes
2009-11-04  3:10                                                           ` David Rientjes
2009-11-04  3:19                                                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-04  3:19                                                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-30 13:59                                           ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-30 13:59                                             ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-30 19:24                                             ` David Rientjes
2009-10-30 19:24                                               ` David Rientjes
2009-11-02 19:58                                               ` Vedran Furač
2009-11-02 19:58                                                 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28 13:28                           ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28 13:28                             ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28 20:10                             ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28 20:10                               ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29  3:05                               ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-29  3:05                                 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-29  8:35                                 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29  8:35                                   ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 11:01                                   ` Vedran Furač [this message]
2009-10-29 11:01                                     ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-29 19:42                                     ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 19:42                                       ` David Rientjes
2009-10-30 13:53                                       ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-30 13:53                                         ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-30 14:08                                         ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-10-30 14:08                                           ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-10-30 15:13                                           ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-30 15:13                                             ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-30 14:12                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-30 14:12                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-30 14:41                                           ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-30 14:41                                             ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-30 15:15                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-30 15:15                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-30 16:24                                               ` Hugh Dickins
2009-10-30 16:24                                                 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-11-02 19:56                                               ` Vedran Furač
2009-11-02 19:56                                                 ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-30 19:44                                         ` David Rientjes
2009-10-30 19:44                                           ` David Rientjes
2009-11-02 19:56                                           ` Vedran Furač
2009-11-02 19:56                                             ` Vedran Furač
2009-10-28  0:43                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28  0:43                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28  2:47                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-28  2:47                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-10-28  3:17                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28  3:17                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28  4:12                   ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28  4:12                     ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28  8:10                     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-10-28  8:10                       ` Hugh Dickins
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-12-09 22:00 Tracy R Reed
2005-12-11  2:00 ` Kip Macy
2005-12-11 15:45   ` Keir Fraser
2005-12-11 19:59     ` Rik van Riel
2005-12-13 16:10       ` Keir Fraser
2005-12-13 16:25         ` Jacob Gorm Hansen

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