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* [dm-crypt] Future decryption
@ 2009-11-03 13:07 Antonio Araujo Brett
  2009-11-03 14:13 ` Arno Wagner
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Antonio Araujo Brett @ 2009-11-03 13:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: dm-crypt

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Hi,
Is it possible to use dm-crypt to implement future decryption?
(protecting a document before a predefined time).

Best Regards

Antonio Araujo Brett
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* Re: [dm-crypt] Future decryption
  2009-11-03 13:07 [dm-crypt] Future decryption Antonio Araujo Brett
@ 2009-11-03 14:13 ` Arno Wagner
  2009-11-03 18:47   ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
  2009-11-03 18:55   ` Antonio Araujo Brett
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Arno Wagner @ 2009-11-03 14:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: dm-crypt

That makes very little sense for filesystem encryption.

And actually, I do not believe there is any good way
way of implementing such a concept in the first place.
Time is just a number to a cryptosystem, and that 
number is one of the very few things that can be well
predicted, hence it can be faked.

Thinks like hardware modules that release a key after a 
predefined time do not count. They are not a cryptographic
approach.

Arno


On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 08:37:49AM -0430, Antonio Araujo Brett wrote:
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> Hi,
> Is it possible to use dm-crypt to implement future decryption?
> (protecting a document before a predefined time).
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Antonio Araujo Brett
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* Re: [dm-crypt] Future decryption
  2009-11-03 14:13 ` Arno Wagner
@ 2009-11-03 18:47   ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
  2009-11-03 23:13     ` Arno Wagner
  2009-11-03 18:55   ` Antonio Araujo Brett
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe @ 2009-11-03 18:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: dm-crypt

Arno Wagner <arno@wagner.name> wrote:
> And actually, I do not believe there is any good way
> way of implementing such a concept in the first place.

If the time difference is big enough you could rely on Moore's Law :)


regards
   Mario
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* Re: [dm-crypt] Future decryption
  2009-11-03 14:13 ` Arno Wagner
  2009-11-03 18:47   ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
@ 2009-11-03 18:55   ` Antonio Araujo Brett
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Antonio Araujo Brett @ 2009-11-03 18:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Arno Wagner; +Cc: dm-crypt

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Thanks for your comments.

Antonio Araujo Brett

Arno Wagner escribió:
> That makes very little sense for filesystem encryption.
> 
> And actually, I do not believe there is any good way
> way of implementing such a concept in the first place.
> Time is just a number to a cryptosystem, and that 
> number is one of the very few things that can be well
> predicted, hence it can be faked.
> 
> Thinks like hardware modules that release a key after a 
> predefined time do not count. They are not a cryptographic
> approach.
> 
> Arno
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 08:37:49AM -0430, Antonio Araujo Brett wrote:
> Hi,
> Is it possible to use dm-crypt to implement future decryption?
> (protecting a document before a predefined time).
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Antonio Araujo Brett
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* Re: [dm-crypt] Future decryption
  2009-11-03 18:47   ` Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
@ 2009-11-03 23:13     ` Arno Wagner
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Arno Wagner @ 2009-11-03 23:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: dm-crypt

On Tue, Nov 03, 2009 at 07:47:20PM +0100, Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote:
> Arno Wagner <arno@wagner.name> wrote:
> > And actually, I do not believe there is any good way
> > way of implementing such a concept in the first place.
> 
> If the time difference is big enough you could rely on Moore's Law :)

Not for a precise timestamp, but yes ;-)

Arno
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Arno Wagner, Dr. sc. techn., Dipl. Inform., CISSP -- Email: arno@wagner.name 
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If it's in the news, don't worry about it.  The very definition of 
"news" is "something that hardly ever happens." -- Bruce Schneier 

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