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From: trd@45mercystreet.com (Toby Douglass)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: CAS implementation may be broken
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:34:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B0C5F90.7050503@45mercystreet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1259061596.13956.15.camel@pc1117.cambridge.arm.com>

I wrote:
> I thought about this a little.  If the memory barrier is immediately 
> before and given the next instruction is the LDREX, *all* threads coming 
> to the LDREX *must* have preceeding them a DMB and so be up to date on 
> memory, regardless of pauses in thread execution.

Additionally; the DMB afterwards seemed to have no value.  You could 
perform the STREX and then your thread could pause indefinitely and were 
you in a situation where you store was not immediately visible or 
correctly ordered to another thread, that thread would then read the old 
value.

A more common example would be that another thread is reading the 
destination value for some reason, and reads after the STREX and before 
the trailing DMB.

This implies you need a DMB as the instruction immediately preceding 
every read and every write of destination.  On x86/x64, all the atomic 
ops (e.g. the LOCK prefix) act as full memory barriers.

Note that I'm not yet fully conversant with the issues in multi-core 
threading, so I may be writing rubbish :-)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-11-24 22:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-04 18:09 GCC built-in atomic operations and memory barriers Toby Douglass
2009-11-04 19:05 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-04 20:12   ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-04 21:03     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-06 19:10       ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-04 22:09   ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2009-11-06 19:17     ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-21 15:21     ` CAS implementation may be broken Toby Douglass
2009-11-23 15:08       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-23 19:10         ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-23 20:06           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-23 20:34             ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-23 15:13       ` Catalin Marinas
2009-11-24 15:15         ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-24 15:36           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-24 16:20             ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-24 16:27             ` Catalin Marinas
2009-11-24 17:14             ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-25  1:24           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-26 16:14             ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-27  1:37               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-24 15:33         ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-23 15:34       ` Catalin Marinas
2009-11-23 16:40         ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-23 22:28       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-23 23:13         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-24  1:32           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-24 11:19             ` Catalin Marinas
2009-11-24 22:24               ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-25 11:11                 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-11-25 18:57                   ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-24 22:34               ` Toby Douglass [this message]
2009-11-24 22:56                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-25  0:34                   ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-24  9:38           ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-24 15:59         ` Catalin Marinas
2009-11-24 16:34         ` Toby Douglass

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