From: Alan Jenkins <alan-jenkins@tuffmail.co.uk>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] uswsusp: automatically free the in-memory image once s2disk has finished with it
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:57:28 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B17B5B8.1060105@tuffmail.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091203075301.GA29440@elf.ucw.cz>
Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Wed 2009-12-02 22:25:16, Mel Gorman wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 11:15:24PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed 2009-12-02 22:07:18, Mel Gorman wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 10:11:07PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed 2009-12-02 14:28:12, Alan Jenkins wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The original in-kernel suspend (swsusp) frees the in-memory hibernation
>>>>>> image before powering off the machine. s2disk doesn't, so there is
>>>>>> _much_ less free memory when it tries to power off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a gratuitous difference. The userspace suspend interface
>>>>>> /dev/snapshot only allows the hibernation image to be read once.
>>>>>> Once the s2disk program has read the last page, we can free the entire
>>>>>> image.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This avoids a hang after writing the hibernation image which was
>>>>>> triggered by commit 5f8dcc21211a3d4e3a7a5ca366b469fb88117f61
>>>>>> "page-allocator: split per-cpu list into one-list-per-migrate-type":
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, you work around page-allocator hang. But is it right thing to do?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> What's wrong with it? The hang is likely because the allocator has no
>>>> memory to work with. The patch in question makes small changes to the
>>>> amount of available memory but it shouldn't matter on uni-core. Some
>>>> structures are slightly larger but it's extremely borderline. I'm at a
>>>> loss to explain actually why it makes a difference untill things were
>>>> extremely borderline to begin with.
>>>>
>>> We reserve 4MB, for such purposes, and we already wrote image to disk
>>> with such constrains, so memory should not be _too_ tight.
>>>
>>> Can you try increasing PAGES_FOR_IO to 8MB or something like that?
>>>
>>>
>> What's wrong with just freeing the memory that is no longer required?
>>
>
> Nothing. But 4MB was enough to power down before, it is not enough
> now, and I'd like to understand why.
> Pavel
>
Here's a new datum:
Applying this patch has left a less frequent hang. So far it has
happened twice. (Once playing last night, and once today testing
hibernation with KMS enabled).
This hang happens at a different point. It happens _before_ writing out
the hibernation image. That is, I don't see the textual progress bar,
and if I force a power-cycle then it doesn't resume (and complains about
uncleanly unmounted filesystems).
Here is the backtrace:
[top of screen]
s2disk D c1c05580 0 5988 5809 0x00000000
...
Call Trace:
...
? wait_for_common
? default_wake_function
? kthread_create
? worker_thread
? create_workqueue_thread
? worker_thread
? __create_workqueue_thread
? stop_machine_create
? disable_nonboot_cpus
? hibernation_snapshot
? snapshot_ioctl
...
? sys_ioctl
It looks like hibernation_snapshot() calls disable_nonboot_cpus()
_before_ we allocate the hibernation image. (I.e. before
swsusp_arch_suspend(), which calls swsusp_save()).
So I think Pavel's right, we still need to work out what's happening here.
Regards
Alan
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Alan Jenkins <alan-jenkins@tuffmail.co.uk>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] uswsusp: automatically free the in-memory image once s2disk has finished with it
Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:57:28 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B17B5B8.1060105@tuffmail.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091203075301.GA29440@elf.ucw.cz>
Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Wed 2009-12-02 22:25:16, Mel Gorman wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 11:15:24PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed 2009-12-02 22:07:18, Mel Gorman wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 10:11:07PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed 2009-12-02 14:28:12, Alan Jenkins wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The original in-kernel suspend (swsusp) frees the in-memory hibernation
>>>>>> image before powering off the machine. s2disk doesn't, so there is
>>>>>> _much_ less free memory when it tries to power off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a gratuitous difference. The userspace suspend interface
>>>>>> /dev/snapshot only allows the hibernation image to be read once.
>>>>>> Once the s2disk program has read the last page, we can free the entire
>>>>>> image.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This avoids a hang after writing the hibernation image which was
>>>>>> triggered by commit 5f8dcc21211a3d4e3a7a5ca366b469fb88117f61
>>>>>> "page-allocator: split per-cpu list into one-list-per-migrate-type":
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, you work around page-allocator hang. But is it right thing to do?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> What's wrong with it? The hang is likely because the allocator has no
>>>> memory to work with. The patch in question makes small changes to the
>>>> amount of available memory but it shouldn't matter on uni-core. Some
>>>> structures are slightly larger but it's extremely borderline. I'm at a
>>>> loss to explain actually why it makes a difference untill things were
>>>> extremely borderline to begin with.
>>>>
>>> We reserve 4MB, for such purposes, and we already wrote image to disk
>>> with such constrains, so memory should not be _too_ tight.
>>>
>>> Can you try increasing PAGES_FOR_IO to 8MB or something like that?
>>>
>>>
>> What's wrong with just freeing the memory that is no longer required?
>>
>
> Nothing. But 4MB was enough to power down before, it is not enough
> now, and I'd like to understand why.
> Pavel
>
Here's a new datum:
Applying this patch has left a less frequent hang. So far it has
happened twice. (Once playing last night, and once today testing
hibernation with KMS enabled).
This hang happens at a different point. It happens _before_ writing out
the hibernation image. That is, I don't see the textual progress bar,
and if I force a power-cycle then it doesn't resume (and complains about
uncleanly unmounted filesystems).
Here is the backtrace:
[top of screen]
s2disk D c1c05580 0 5988 5809 0x00000000
...
Call Trace:
...
? wait_for_common
? default_wake_function
? kthread_create
? worker_thread
? create_workqueue_thread
? worker_thread
? __create_workqueue_thread
? stop_machine_create
? disable_nonboot_cpus
? hibernation_snapshot
? snapshot_ioctl
...
? sys_ioctl
It looks like hibernation_snapshot() calls disable_nonboot_cpus()
_before_ we allocate the hibernation image. (I.e. before
swsusp_arch_suspend(), which calls swsusp_save()).
So I think Pavel's right, we still need to work out what's happening here.
Regards
Alan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-03 12:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-01 19:59 Bisected: s2disk (uswsusp only) hangs just before poweroff Alan Jenkins
2009-12-01 19:59 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-12-01 20:24 ` Justin P. Mattock
[not found] ` <4B1575AC.6080904-cCz0Lq7MMjm9FHfhHBbuYA@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-01 20:24 ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-12-01 20:24 ` Justin P. Mattock
[not found] ` <4B157B81.9050703-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-01 20:27 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-12-01 20:27 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-12-01 21:14 ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-12-01 21:14 ` Justin P. Mattock
2009-12-01 20:27 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-12-01 21:45 ` Mel Gorman
2009-12-01 21:45 ` Mel Gorman
2009-12-01 21:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-02 11:49 ` Alan Jenkins
[not found] ` <200912012253.08522.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-02 11:49 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-12-02 11:49 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-12-02 12:20 ` Mel Gorman
[not found] ` <4B16545B.3090703-cCz0Lq7MMjm9FHfhHBbuYA@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-02 12:20 ` Mel Gorman
2009-12-02 12:20 ` Mel Gorman
2009-12-02 14:25 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-12-02 14:25 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-12-02 14:28 ` [PATCH] uswsusp: automatically free the in-memory image once s2disk has finished with it Alan Jenkins
[not found] ` <20091202122019.GD1457-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-02 14:28 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-12-02 14:28 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-12-02 21:11 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-02 21:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <4B16797C.3010304-cCz0Lq7MMjm9FHfhHBbuYA@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-02 21:11 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-02 21:11 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-02 22:07 ` Mel Gorman
[not found] ` <20091202211107.GA20830-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-02 22:07 ` Mel Gorman
2009-12-02 22:07 ` Mel Gorman
2009-12-02 22:15 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-02 22:15 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] ` <20091202221524.GB20830-I/5MKhXcvmPrBKCeMvbIDA@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-02 22:25 ` Mel Gorman
2009-12-02 22:25 ` Mel Gorman
[not found] ` <20091202222516.GD26702-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-02 23:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-02 23:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-03 7:53 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-03 7:53 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-03 12:57 ` Alan Jenkins [this message]
2009-12-03 12:57 ` Alan Jenkins
[not found] ` <4B17B5B8.1060105-cCz0Lq7MMjm9FHfhHBbuYA@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-03 14:50 ` Mel Gorman
2009-12-03 14:50 ` Mel Gorman
2009-12-08 0:37 ` Alan Jenkins
[not found] ` <20091203145018.GG26702-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-08 0:37 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-12-08 0:37 ` Alan Jenkins
[not found] ` <9b2b86520912071637v6957ed24ie0f67acf6785ab08-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-11 10:53 ` Mel Gorman
2009-12-11 10:53 ` Mel Gorman
[not found] ` <20091211105352.GB30670-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-14 11:08 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-14 11:08 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-14 11:08 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-11 10:53 ` Mel Gorman
2009-12-03 20:16 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-03 20:16 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-03 14:50 ` Mel Gorman
2009-12-03 19:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-03 19:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-03 20:16 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-02 23:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-03 7:53 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-02 22:25 ` Mel Gorman
2009-12-02 21:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-02 21:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-01 21:53 ` Bisected: s2disk (uswsusp only) hangs just before poweroff Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-12-02 8:57 ` Alan Jenkins
[not found] ` <20091201214529.GA1457-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-02 8:57 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-12-02 8:57 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-12-02 10:35 ` Mel Gorman
[not found] ` <4B162BE1.7070709-cCz0Lq7MMjm9FHfhHBbuYA@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-02 10:35 ` Mel Gorman
2009-12-02 10:35 ` Mel Gorman
[not found] ` <20091202103538.GB1457-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-02 11:35 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-12-02 11:35 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-12-02 11:35 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-12-02 11:11 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-12-02 11:11 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-12-02 11:11 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-12-01 21:45 ` Mel Gorman
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=4B17B5B8.1060105@tuffmail.co.uk \
--to=alan-jenkins@tuffmail.co.uk \
--cc=kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org \
--cc=mel@csn.ul.ie \
--cc=pavel@ucw.cz \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.