From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Gregory Haskins <gregory.haskins@gmail.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org,
"alacrityvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net"
<alacrityvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] AlacrityVM guest drivers for 2.6.33
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:27:33 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B30F375.6050103@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091222162110.GG10314@basil.fritz.box>
On 12/22/2009 10:21 AM, Andi Kleen wrote:
>> So far, the only actual technical advantage I've seen is that vbus avoids
>> EOI exits.
>>
> The technical advantage is that it's significantly faster today.
>
There are two separate pieces of code in question. There are front-end
drivers and there are back-end drivers.
Right now, there are only front-end drivers in the kernel today. The
combination of vbus front-end drivers and *kernel* back-end drivers are
faster than the *combination* of virtio front-end drivers and
*userspace* back-end drivers.
vhost-net is our kernel back-end driver. No one has yet established
that the combination of virtio front-end driver and kernel back-end
driver is really significantly slower than vbus.
> Maybe your proposed alternative is as fast, or maybe it's not. Who knows?
>
>
>> We think we understand why vbus does better than the current userspace
>> virtio backend. That's why we're building vhost-net. It's not done yet,
>> but our expectation is that it will do just as well if not better.
>>
> That's the vapourware vs working code disconnect I mentioned. One side has hard
> numbers&working code and the other has expectations. I usually find it sad when the
> vapourware holds up the working code.
>
We're not talking about vaporware. vhost-net exists.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> -Andi
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-22 16:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-07 18:53 [GIT PULL] AlacrityVM guest drivers for 2.6.33 Gregory Haskins
2009-12-18 21:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-21 15:34 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-21 15:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 16:04 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-21 16:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-21 16:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 16:56 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-21 17:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 17:24 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-21 16:46 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-21 17:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-21 17:44 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-22 0:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-22 7:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-22 11:49 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-22 15:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-22 16:01 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-12-22 16:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-23 6:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-23 10:13 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-23 10:22 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-23 12:14 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-23 12:48 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-23 17:00 ` Chris Wright
2009-12-23 17:20 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-23 15:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-23 17:52 ` [Alacrityvm-devel] " Peter W. Morreale
2009-12-23 18:17 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-23 18:22 ` Chris Wright
2009-12-23 18:15 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-23 20:20 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-23 21:21 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-23 21:21 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-27 9:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-27 13:18 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-27 13:27 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-27 13:39 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-27 13:49 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-28 1:01 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-23 18:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-23 19:27 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-23 20:26 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-24 6:58 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-24 20:41 ` Roland Dreier
2009-12-23 13:07 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-12-23 13:31 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-23 14:08 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2009-12-23 14:28 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-23 14:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-23 18:31 ` Chris Wright
2009-12-23 16:44 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-23 17:10 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-23 17:17 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-23 17:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-12-23 23:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-23 17:33 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-23 20:36 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-23 21:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-24 9:36 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-27 9:33 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-27 13:34 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-27 13:49 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-27 14:29 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-24 9:31 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-27 9:29 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-22 16:21 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-22 16:27 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-12-22 17:33 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-22 17:35 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-22 21:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-23 0:02 ` Chris Wright
2009-12-23 15:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-23 15:17 ` Chris Wright
2009-12-22 17:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-22 20:41 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-22 7:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-22 7:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-12-22 17:36 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-22 18:53 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-22 18:56 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-22 19:15 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-22 19:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-22 19:32 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-22 19:37 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-22 19:38 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-22 19:41 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-22 19:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-22 19:47 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-22 19:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-22 19:39 ` Davide Libenzi
2009-12-22 19:53 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-23 1:05 ` Davide Libenzi
2009-12-23 6:15 ` Kyle Moffett
2009-12-23 15:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-23 19:54 ` [Alacrityvm-devel] " Ira W. Snyder
2009-12-23 22:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-23 23:42 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-12-24 17:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-25 0:38 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-12-24 4:52 ` Kyle Moffett
2009-12-24 16:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-23 17:34 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-12-23 19:28 ` Ira W. Snyder
2009-12-23 19:50 ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-24 10:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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