From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>,
Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>, Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>,
Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>,
Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
Sergei Trofimovich <slyfox@inbox.ru>,
linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-sh@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Makefile: do not override LC_CTYPE
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:50:35 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B4BC75B.405@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100111105201.2d86135b@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
On 01/11/2010 02:52 AM, Alan Cox wrote:
>> This is tolower/toupper()? Do there exist locales where tolower/toupper
>> on ASCII input do weird things, or are we merely hypothesizing?
>
> Turkish is the famous one for this and usually causes
> internationalisation chaos. So yes they exist, and there are worse more
> esoteric cases. There are good reasons sed and friends support classes as
> well as old C locale style ranges.
>
Ah yes, forgot about Turkish. Apparently Lithuanian and Azeri also have
special rules for the letters I and J. Sigh.
-hpa
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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@redhat.com>,
Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>, Simon Horman <horms@verge.net.au>,
Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>,
Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
Sergei Trofimovich <slyfox@inbox.ru>,
linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-sh@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Makefile: do not override LC_CTYPE
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:50:35 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B4BC75B.405@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100111105201.2d86135b@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
On 01/11/2010 02:52 AM, Alan Cox wrote:
>> This is tolower/toupper()? Do there exist locales where tolower/toupper
>> on ASCII input do weird things, or are we merely hypothesizing?
>
> Turkish is the famous one for this and usually causes
> internationalisation chaos. So yes they exist, and there are worse more
> esoteric cases. There are good reasons sed and friends support classes as
> well as old C locale style ranges.
>
Ah yes, forgot about Turkish. Apparently Lithuanian and Azeri also have
special rules for the letters I and J. Sigh.
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-12 0:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-24 11:13 [patch] Makefile: Unexport LANG Simon Horman
2009-12-26 4:30 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2009-12-26 5:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-12-26 11:20 ` Simon Horman
2010-01-08 0:41 ` Simon Horman
2010-01-08 0:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-08 2:45 ` Simon Horman
2010-01-08 2:59 ` Simon Horman
2010-01-08 11:57 ` Michal Marek
2010-01-08 12:16 ` [PATCH] Makefile: do not override LC_CTYPE Michal Marek
2010-01-08 12:16 ` Michal Marek
2010-01-08 18:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-08 18:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-09 0:00 ` Simon Horman
2010-01-09 0:00 ` Simon Horman
2010-01-09 0:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-09 0:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-09 0:09 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-09 0:09 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-09 0:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-09 0:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-09 0:30 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-09 0:30 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-09 0:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-09 0:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-09 0:53 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-09 0:53 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-11 9:52 ` Michal Marek
2010-01-11 9:52 ` Michal Marek
2010-01-11 10:52 ` Alan Cox
2010-01-12 0:50 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2010-01-12 0:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-01-09 1:07 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2010-01-09 1:07 ` Masami Hiramatsu
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