From: Edward Shishkin <edward.shishkin@gmail.com>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>,
tytso@mit.edu, Christian Kujau <lists@nerdbynature.de>,
jim owens <jowens@hp.com>,
jfs-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-nilfs@vger.kernel.org, x
Subject: Re: [Jfs-discussion] benchmark results
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:42:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B50E14E.5050204@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091228140855.GD10982@bitmover.com>
> When things didn't match up that was a clue that either
>
> - the benchmark was broken
> - the code was broken
>
[...]
I would carry out an object-oriented dualism here.
[1] methods (kernel module) ---- [2] objects (formatted partition)
| |
| |
[3] benchmarks ----------------- [4] user-space utilities (fsck)
User-space utilities investigate "object corruptions",
whereas benchmarks investigate "software corruptions"
(including bugs in source code, broken design, etc, etc..)
It is clear that "software" can be "corrupted" by a larger
number of ways than "objects". Indeed, it is known that
dual space V* (of all linear functions over V) is a much
more complex object than V.
So benchmark is a process which takes a set of methods
(we consider only "software" benchmarks) and puts numerical
values populated with a special (the worst) value CRASH.
Three main categories of benchmarks using:
1) Internal testing
An engineer makes optimizations in a file system (e.g. for a
customer) via choosing functions or plugins as winners in
a set of internal (local) "nominations".
2) Business plans
A system administrator chooses a "winner" in some (global)
"nomination" of file systems in accordance with internal
business-plans.
3) Flame and politics
Someone presents a "nomination" (usually with the "winner"
among restricted number of nominated members) to the public
while nobody asked him to do it.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Edward Shishkin <edward.shishkin@gmail.com>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@bitmover.com>,
tytso@mit.edu, Christian Kujau <lists@nerdbynature.de>,
jim owens <jowens@hp.com>,
jfs-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-nilfs@vger.kernel.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com,
reiserfs-devel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Grandi <pg_jf2@jf2.for.sabi.co.UK>,
ext-users <ext3-users@redhat.com>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Jfs-discussion] benchmark results
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:42:38 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B50E14E.5050204@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091228140855.GD10982@bitmover.com>
> When things didn't match up that was a clue that either
>
> - the benchmark was broken
> - the code was broken
>
[...]
I would carry out an object-oriented dualism here.
[1] methods (kernel module) ---- [2] objects (formatted partition)
| |
| |
[3] benchmarks ----------------- [4] user-space utilities (fsck)
User-space utilities investigate "object corruptions",
whereas benchmarks investigate "software corruptions"
(including bugs in source code, broken design, etc, etc..)
It is clear that "software" can be "corrupted" by a larger
number of ways than "objects". Indeed, it is known that
dual space V* (of all linear functions over V) is a much
more complex object than V.
So benchmark is a process which takes a set of methods
(we consider only "software" benchmarks) and puts numerical
values populated with a special (the worst) value CRASH.
Three main categories of benchmarks using:
1) Internal testing
An engineer makes optimizations in a file system (e.g. for a
customer) via choosing functions or plugins as winners in
a set of internal (local) "nominations".
2) Business plans
A system administrator chooses a "winner" in some (global)
"nomination" of file systems in accordance with internal
business-plans.
3) Flame and politics
Someone presents a "nomination" (usually with the "winner"
among restricted number of nominated members) to the public
while nobody asked him to do it.
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Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-24 10:31 benchmark results Christian Kujau
2009-12-24 10:31 ` Christian Kujau
2009-12-24 12:06 ` Ryusuke Konishi
2009-12-24 12:06 ` Ryusuke Konishi
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.01.0912240415450.3483@bogon.housecafe.de>
[not found] ` <4B336289.3010608@nerdbynature.de>
[not found] ` <4B336289.3010608-AanptEQQ3TL9uQeqpI+JUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-24 15:35 ` Ryusuke Konishi
2009-12-24 12:59 ` Teran McKinney
2009-12-24 12:59 ` Teran McKinney
2009-12-24 12:59 ` Teran McKinney
2009-12-24 20:01 ` Christian Kujau
2009-12-24 13:05 ` Peter Grandi
2009-12-24 13:05 ` [Jfs-discussion] " Peter Grandi
2009-12-24 21:27 ` tytso
2009-12-24 21:27 ` tytso
2009-12-24 23:46 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-12-24 23:46 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-12-25 16:11 ` tytso
2009-12-25 16:11 ` tytso
2010-01-04 16:27 ` Chris Mason
2010-01-04 16:27 ` Chris Mason
2010-01-04 18:57 ` Michael Rubin
2010-01-04 18:57 ` Michael Rubin
2010-01-04 18:57 ` Michael Rubin
2010-01-04 18:57 ` Michael Rubin
2010-01-05 0:41 ` Dave Chinner
2010-01-05 0:41 ` Dave Chinner
2010-01-05 0:41 ` Dave Chinner
2010-01-05 15:31 ` Steven Pratt
2010-01-05 15:31 ` Steven Pratt
2009-12-25 1:52 ` Christian Kujau
2009-12-25 1:52 ` Christian Kujau
2009-12-25 13:19 ` lakshmi pathi
2009-12-25 13:19 ` lakshmi pathi
2009-12-25 16:14 ` tytso
2009-12-25 16:14 ` tytso
2009-12-25 16:22 ` Larry McVoy
2009-12-25 16:33 ` tytso
2009-12-25 16:33 ` tytso
2009-12-25 16:33 ` tytso
2009-12-25 16:33 ` tytso
2009-12-25 18:56 ` Christian Kujau
2009-12-25 18:56 ` Christian Kujau
2009-12-25 19:32 ` Christian Kujau
2009-12-25 19:32 ` Christian Kujau
2009-12-25 18:51 ` Christian Kujau
2009-12-25 18:51 ` Christian Kujau
2009-12-26 16:00 ` jim owens
2009-12-26 16:00 ` jim owens
2009-12-26 19:06 ` Christian Kujau
2009-12-26 19:06 ` Christian Kujau
2009-12-27 19:50 ` jim owens
2009-12-27 19:50 ` jim owens
2009-12-27 21:55 ` Christian Kujau
2009-12-27 21:55 ` Christian Kujau
2009-12-27 22:33 ` tytso
2009-12-27 22:33 ` tytso
2009-12-28 1:24 ` Christian Kujau
2009-12-28 1:24 ` Christian Kujau
2009-12-28 14:08 ` Larry McVoy
2009-12-28 14:08 ` Larry McVoy
2010-01-15 21:42 ` Edward Shishkin
2010-01-15 21:42 ` Edward Shishkin
2010-01-15 21:42 ` Edward Shishkin [this message]
2010-01-15 21:42 ` Edward Shishkin
2009-12-26 19:19 ` tytso
2009-12-26 19:19 ` tytso
2010-01-11 1:03 ` Casey Allen Shobe
2010-01-11 1:32 ` Larry McVoy
2010-01-11 1:32 ` Larry McVoy
2009-12-25 18:42 ` Christian Kujau
2009-12-25 18:42 ` Christian Kujau
2009-12-29 11:27 ` Emmanuel Florac
2009-12-29 11:27 ` Emmanuel Florac
2009-12-29 11:27 ` Emmanuel Florac
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