From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: hadi@cyberus.ca, Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@fr.ibm.com>,
Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>,
Linux Netdev List <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Netfilter Development Mailinglist
<netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>,
Serge Hallyn <serue@us.ibm.com>,
Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] ns: Syscalls for better namespace sharing control.
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:30:02 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B88D80A.8010701@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m13a0nwu6p.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>
Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com> writes:
>
>>>> Yet another set of per-namespace IDs along with CLONE_NEWXXX ones?
>>>> I currently have a way to create all namespaces we have with one
>>>> syscall. Why don't we have an ability to enter them all with one syscall?
>>> The CLONE_NEWXXX series of bits has been an royal pain to work with,
>>> and it appears to be unnecessary complications for no gain.
>> That's the answer for the "Yet another set..." question.
>> How about the "Why don't we have..." one?
>
> I am not certain which question you are asking:
>
> Why don't we have an ability to enter all namespaces with one syscall
> invocation?
Exactly. Please add at least the NSTYPE_NSPROXY or whatever, that will
pin all namespaces of a given pid from the very beginning.
> Why don't we have a syscall that allows us to enter every namespace?
This one is done in the patch, no?
Although the approach is OK for me, there's one design issue, that came
up to my mind recently: can we use this fd to wail for a namespace to
stop? I currently don't see this ability, but this is something I require
badly.
Thoughts?
> Eric
>
>
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Thread overview: 183+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-14 14:05 RFC: netfilter: nf_conntrack: add support for "conntrack zones" Patrick McHardy
2010-01-14 15:05 ` jamal
2010-01-14 15:37 ` Patrick McHardy
2010-01-14 15:37 ` Patrick McHardy
2010-01-14 17:33 ` jamal
2010-01-15 10:15 ` Patrick McHardy
2010-01-15 10:15 ` Patrick McHardy
[not found] ` <4B50403A.6010507-dcUjhNyLwpNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-15 15:19 ` jamal
2010-01-15 15:19 ` jamal
2010-02-22 20:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-22 20:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m13a0tf17t.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-22 21:55 ` jamal
2010-02-22 21:55 ` jamal
2010-02-22 23:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-22 23:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1wry46es9.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-23 13:27 ` jamal
2010-02-23 14:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-23 14:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1iq9ocafv.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-23 14:20 ` jamal
2010-02-23 14:20 ` jamal
2010-02-23 20:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-23 23:09 ` jamal
2010-02-24 1:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-24 1:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-25 20:57 ` [RFC][PATCH] ns: Syscalls for better namespace sharing control Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-25 21:31 ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-02-25 21:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-25 22:13 ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-02-25 22:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <4B86F5EC.60902-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-25 22:31 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-26 20:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1mxyx0yv7.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-25 22:13 ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-02-26 20:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <4B86EC45.3060005-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-25 21:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-25 21:46 ` Matt Helsley
2010-02-25 21:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <20100225214656.GS3604-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-25 21:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-26 0:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-26 0:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-26 1:09 ` Matt Helsley
2010-02-26 1:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <20100226010915.GA20106-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-26 1:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-26 3:15 ` [RFC][PATCH] ns: Syscalls for better namespace sharing control. v2 Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m18wagy9f3.fsf_-_-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-03 20:29 ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-03-03 20:29 ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-03-03 20:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <20100303132931.11afb659-vw3g6Xz/EtPk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-03 20:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1pr3t2fvl.fsf_-_-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-25 21:31 ` [RFC][PATCH] ns: Syscalls for better namespace sharing control Daniel Lezcano
2010-02-25 21:46 ` Matt Helsley
2010-02-26 1:09 ` Matt Helsley
2010-02-26 3:15 ` [RFC][PATCH] ns: Syscalls for better namespace sharing control. v2 Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-26 21:13 ` [RFC][PATCH] ns: Syscalls for better namespace sharing control Pavel Emelyanov
[not found] ` <4B883987.6090408-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-26 21:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-26 21:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1bpfbwuze.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-26 21:34 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-02-26 21:35 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-02-26 21:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <4B883EAF.5020607-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-26 21:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-26 21:34 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-02-26 21:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-26 21:58 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <4B8843FE.4000404-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-26 22:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-26 22:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1zl2vtzg4.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-26 22:52 ` Oren Laadan
2010-02-26 22:52 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <4B885093.4070807-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-26 23:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-26 23:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m13a0nwu6p.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-26 21:58 ` Oren Laadan
2010-02-27 8:30 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-02-27 8:30 ` Pavel Emelyanov [this message]
[not found] ` <4B88D80A.8010701-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-27 9:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-27 9:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1mxyvrqvk.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-27 9:21 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-02-27 9:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1bpfbqajn.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-27 16:16 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-02-27 16:16 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-02-27 19:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1iq9io5sc.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-27 19:29 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-02-27 19:29 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-02-27 19:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-28 22:05 ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-03-01 19:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-01 21:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1ljebwwgd.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-02 13:10 ` Cedric Le Goater
2010-03-02 13:10 ` Cedric Le Goater
2010-03-02 15:03 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-03-02 15:14 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-03-02 21:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <alpine.LSU.2.01.1003021613570.17303-SHaQjdQMGhDmsUXKMKRlFA@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-02 21:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <4B8D28CF.8060304-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-02 15:14 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-03-02 21:19 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-03-02 21:19 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-03-02 22:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1y6iaqsmm.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-03 0:07 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2010-03-03 0:07 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
[not found] ` <20100303000743.GA13744-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-03 0:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-03 0:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1ocj6qljj.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-03 15:38 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-03-03 16:50 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-03-03 15:38 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20100303153800.GA937-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-03 19:47 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-03 19:47 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m13a0hmblr.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-04 21:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-04 21:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-04 22:55 ` Jan Engelhardt
[not found] ` <m1pr3j92x8.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-04 22:55 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-03-03 16:50 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-03-03 20:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m17hptjh3m.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-05 19:18 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-03-05 19:18 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-03-05 20:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-06 14:47 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <4B926B1B.5070207-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-06 20:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1aaulyy5c.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-06 21:26 ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-03-08 8:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-08 16:54 ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-03-08 17:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m11vfuvi1t.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-08 19:57 ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-03-08 19:57 ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-03-08 20:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m11vfusgsa.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-08 20:42 ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-03-08 20:42 ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-03-08 20:47 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1sk8ar15b.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-08 21:12 ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-03-08 21:12 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <4B956852.7050804-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-08 21:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-08 21:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-08 21:49 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20100308214945.GA26617-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-08 22:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-08 22:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-09 10:03 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <4B961D09.4010802-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-09 10:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-09 10:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-09 10:26 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <m1ocixn6q3.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-09 10:26 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <m1lje2qzf4.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-08 21:49 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-03-09 10:03 ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-03-10 21:16 ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-03-10 21:16 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <4B95611C.5060403-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-08 20:47 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <4B9556A9.60206-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-08 20:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <4B952BBE.6070507-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-08 17:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-08 17:07 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20100308170719.GD6399-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-08 17:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-08 17:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1pr3eu36u.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-08 17:47 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-03-08 17:47 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <m1fx4bxlfy.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-08 16:54 ` Daniel Lezcano
2010-03-08 17:07 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <4B92C886.9020507-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-08 8:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <4B9158F5.5040205-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-05 20:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <4B8E9370.3050300-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-03 20:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <20100302211942.GA17816-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-02 22:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <4B8AE8C1.1030305-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-01 19:24 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-01 21:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-02 15:03 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2010-03-03 20:59 ` Oren Laadan
2010-03-03 20:59 ` Oren Laadan
[not found] ` <4B8ECD99.3040107-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-03 21:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-03 21:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m18wa9glpo.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-27 12:06 ` [Devel] " Enrico Weigelt
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2010-02-28 22:05 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <4B89727C.9040602-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-27 19:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <4B894564.7080104-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-27 19:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <4B88E431.6040609-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-27 9:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <4B883E6F.1060907-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-26 21:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-05-27 12:28 ` [Devel] " Enrico Weigelt
[not found] ` <20100527122800.GC31480-q9I3ByPDOfiE+EvaaNYduQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-27 12:44 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <4BFE6938.50607-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-27 15:42 ` Enrico Weigelt
2010-02-25 20:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-23 23:49 ` RFC: netfilter: nf_conntrack: add support for "conntrack zones" Matt Helsley
2010-02-24 1:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-24 1:39 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <m18waj2zc8.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-24 1:39 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20100223234942.GO3604-52DBMbEzqgQ/wnmkkaCWp/UQ3DHhIser@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-24 1:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <m1r5obbu2w.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-23 23:09 ` jamal
2010-02-23 23:49 ` Matt Helsley
2010-02-23 20:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <4B4F3A50.1050400-dcUjhNyLwpNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-14 17:33 ` jamal
2010-01-14 18:32 ` Ben Greear
[not found] ` <4B4F6332.50606-my8/4N5VtI7c+919tysfdA@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-15 15:03 ` jamal
2010-01-15 15:03 ` jamal
[not found] ` <4B4F24AC.70105-dcUjhNyLwpNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-14 15:05 ` jamal
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