From: Mark Lord <kernel@teksavvy.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern-nwvwT67g6+6dFdvTe/nMLpVzexx5G7lz@public.gmane.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>,
Sergei Shtylyov
<sshtylyov-Igf4POYTYCDQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Jonas Schwertfeger
<jschwertfeger-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Kay Sievers <kay.sievers-tD+1rO4QERM@public.gmane.org>,
Douglas Gilbert
<dgilbert-qazKcTl6WRFWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
David Zeuthen <david-o55+BOBDEFg@public.gmane.org>,
linux-hotplug-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Sarah Sharp
<sarah.a.sharp-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>,
linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
USB Storage List
<usb-storage-ijkIwGHArpdIPJnuZ7Njw4oP9KaGy4wf@public.gmane.org>,
Matthew Dharm
<mdharm-usb-JGfshJpz5UybPZpvUQj5UqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>,
linux-scsi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Lennart Poettering
<lennart-mdGvqq1h2p+GdvJs77BJ7Q@public.gmane.org>,
Mark Lord <liml-gsilrlXbHYg@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: System hangs when using USB 3.0 HD with on Ubuntu
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 22:49:49 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BBD0C0D.5060606@teksavvy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1004071516260.5760-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
On 07/04/10 03:18 PM, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Apr 2010, Mark Lord wrote:
>
>> Errr.. yes and no.
>>
>> Yes, because nobody else is likely to do anything about it,
>> so I will work around the hardware bug by updating hdparm.
>>
>> But no, there's no funky missing data length issue there.
>> Just a bridge chip that doesn't understand ATA_16 commands.
>
> Did you look at this comment and the following one:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-fsl-imx51/+bug/431963#25
>
> Is the engineer from Genesys Logic totally off-base?
..
Yes. As discussed already, there is *no* sector count parameter
for the (S)ATA "IDENTIFY" command. Other USB/SATA bridges handle
this correctly in SAT mode, just not this specific model.
No big deal, we'll work around it.
It's low priority for me, though.
I do have a pre-release HDPARM that uses ATA_12 for IDENTIFY,
as this is reported to work on this hardware, even though it is
otherwise _identical_ to the command issue via ATA_16.
That's another indication of a buggy/inconsistent bridge chip.
And I've also added a sector count of "1" to hdparm's IDENTIFY
commands. Properly implemented hardware/software will just ignore it
as usual, but this bridge might benefit from it.
Anyone want to give this second update a try?
Thanks
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From: Mark Lord <kernel-R6A+fiHC8nRWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern-nwvwT67g6+6dFdvTe/nMLpVzexx5G7lz@public.gmane.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>,
Sergei Shtylyov
<sshtylyov-Igf4POYTYCDQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Jonas Schwertfeger
<jschwertfeger-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Kay Sievers <kay.sievers-tD+1rO4QERM@public.gmane.org>,
Douglas Gilbert
<dgilbert-qazKcTl6WRFWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
David Zeuthen <david-o55+BOBDEFg@public.gmane.org>,
linux-hotplug-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Sarah Sharp
<sarah.a.sharp-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>,
linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
USB Storage List
<usb-storage-ijkIwGHArpdIPJnuZ7Njw4oP9KaGy4wf@public.gmane.org>,
Matthew Dharm
<mdharm-usb-JGfshJpz5UybPZpvUQj5UqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>,
linux-scsi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Lennart Poettering
<lennart-mdGvqq1h2p+GdvJs77BJ7Q@public.gmane.org>,
Mark Lord <liml-gsilrlXbHYg@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: System hangs when using USB 3.0 HD with on Ubuntu
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:49:49 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BBD0C0D.5060606@teksavvy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1004071516260.5760-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
On 07/04/10 03:18 PM, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Apr 2010, Mark Lord wrote:
>
>> Errr.. yes and no.
>>
>> Yes, because nobody else is likely to do anything about it,
>> so I will work around the hardware bug by updating hdparm.
>>
>> But no, there's no funky missing data length issue there.
>> Just a bridge chip that doesn't understand ATA_16 commands.
>
> Did you look at this comment and the following one:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-fsl-imx51/+bug/431963#25
>
> Is the engineer from Genesys Logic totally off-base?
..
Yes. As discussed already, there is *no* sector count parameter
for the (S)ATA "IDENTIFY" command. Other USB/SATA bridges handle
this correctly in SAT mode, just not this specific model.
No big deal, we'll work around it.
It's low priority for me, though.
I do have a pre-release HDPARM that uses ATA_12 for IDENTIFY,
as this is reported to work on this hardware, even though it is
otherwise _identical_ to the command issue via ATA_16.
That's another indication of a buggy/inconsistent bridge chip.
And I've also added a sector count of "1" to hdparm's IDENTIFY
commands. Properly implemented hardware/software will just ignore it
as usual, but this bridge might benefit from it.
Anyone want to give this second update a try?
Thanks
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2010-03-26 18:40 ` System hangs when using USB 3.0 HD with on Ubuntu Sarah Sharp
2010-03-26 19:10 ` Douglas Gilbert
2010-03-26 19:27 ` [usb-storage] " Matthew Dharm
2010-03-26 20:23 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-03-26 20:55 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-03-26 21:10 ` Alan Stern
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2010-03-26 21:30 ` Douglas Gilbert
2010-03-30 7:44 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-03-31 11:39 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-03-31 11:39 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-03-31 14:56 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-31 14:56 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-31 15:20 ` David Zeuthen
2010-03-31 15:20 ` David Zeuthen
2010-03-31 16:12 ` Douglas Gilbert
2010-03-31 16:12 ` Douglas Gilbert
2010-03-31 16:36 ` Alan Stern
2010-03-31 16:36 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-01 13:32 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-01 13:32 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-01 13:42 ` Kay Sievers
2010-04-01 13:42 ` Kay Sievers
2010-04-01 13:55 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-01 13:55 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
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2010-04-01 14:05 ` Kay Sievers
2010-04-01 14:05 ` Kay Sievers
2010-04-02 12:40 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-02 12:40 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
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2010-04-02 13:09 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-02 13:09 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
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2010-04-02 14:12 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-02 14:12 ` Alan Stern
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2010-04-02 14:41 ` James Bottomley
2010-04-02 14:41 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1270219267.2899.73.camel-0iu6Cu4xQGLYCGPCin2YbQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-02 14:57 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-02 14:57 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1004021052040.1615-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-02 15:19 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-02 15:19 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1004021114160.1615-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-02 15:50 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2010-04-02 15:50 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2010-04-02 15:59 ` James Bottomley
2010-04-02 15:59 ` James Bottomley
2010-04-07 18:08 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-07 18:08 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-07 18:29 ` James Bottomley
2010-04-07 18:29 ` James Bottomley
2010-04-07 19:18 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-07 19:18 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1004071516260.5760-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-07 22:49 ` Mark Lord [this message]
2010-04-07 22:49 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-08 5:06 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-08 5:06 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-02 16:21 ` Douglas Gilbert
2010-04-02 16:21 ` Douglas Gilbert
2010-04-02 16:39 ` Douglas Gilbert
2010-04-02 16:39 ` Douglas Gilbert
[not found] ` <4BB61DAF.7090709-qazKcTl6WRFWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-02 21:24 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-02 21:24 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-03 6:21 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-03 6:21 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-03 13:12 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-03 15:40 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-03 15:40 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-03 16:42 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-03 16:42 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-03 17:06 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-03 17:06 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-03 20:58 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-03 20:58 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-04 1:29 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-04 1:29 ` Mark Lord
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1004031648230.21507-100000-pYrvlCTfrz9XsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-06 6:43 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-06 6:43 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
[not found] ` <4BBAD7FF.5000605-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-06 14:49 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-06 14:49 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-06 14:56 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-06 14:56 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
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2010-04-07 6:27 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-07 6:27 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
[not found] ` <4BBC25C9.5030201-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-07 14:36 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-07 14:36 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-07 14:42 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-07 14:42 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-07 14:51 ` Jerone Young
2010-04-07 14:51 ` Jerone Young
2010-04-07 15:03 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-07 15:03 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-07 15:10 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-07 15:10 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-09 15:38 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-09 15:38 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-09 16:39 ` Douglas Gilbert
2010-04-09 16:39 ` Douglas Gilbert
[not found] ` <4BBF582F.4040707-qazKcTl6WRFWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-09 17:14 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-09 17:14 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-09 18:00 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-09 18:00 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-09 19:25 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-09 19:25 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-09 21:54 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-09 21:54 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-12 7:48 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-12 7:48 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-16 18:20 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-16 18:20 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-16 19:25 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-16 19:25 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-19 21:15 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-19 21:15 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-20 0:25 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-20 0:25 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-20 4:31 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-20 4:31 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-20 15:39 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-20 15:39 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1004201045180.1837-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-20 17:37 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-20 17:37 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-20 19:48 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-20 19:48 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-21 14:04 ` Mark Lord
[not found] ` <4BCF0605.7080508-e+AXbWqSrlAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-21 18:17 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-21 18:27 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-21 18:27 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-21 19:07 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-21 19:07 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1004211506040.1422-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-21 19:24 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-21 19:24 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-26 16:27 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-26 16:27 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-29 8:44 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-29 8:44 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-29 12:56 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-29 12:56 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-29 15:45 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-29 15:45 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-07 10:42 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-05-07 10:42 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
[not found] ` <4BE3EE87.6020505-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-07 15:03 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-07 15:03 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-11 6:54 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-05-11 6:54 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-05-11 14:44 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-11 14:44 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-12 12:56 ` Mark Lord
2010-05-12 12:56 ` Mark Lord
2010-05-12 14:23 ` Douglas Gilbert
2010-05-12 14:23 ` Douglas Gilbert
2010-05-12 14:37 ` Mark Lord
2010-05-12 14:37 ` Mark Lord
2010-05-12 14:45 ` Mark Lord
2010-05-12 14:45 ` Mark Lord
2010-05-12 15:09 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-12 15:09 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-12 15:39 ` James Bottomley
2010-05-12 15:39 ` James Bottomley
2010-05-12 18:48 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-12 18:48 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1005121444450.1353-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-05-13 3:12 ` Mark Lord
2010-05-13 3:12 ` Mark Lord
2010-05-13 18:42 ` Alan Stern
2010-05-13 18:42 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-21 12:31 ` Luben Tuikov
2010-04-21 12:31 ` Luben Tuikov
2010-04-21 14:31 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-21 14:31 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-21 12:47 ` Luben Tuikov
2010-04-21 12:47 ` Luben Tuikov
2010-04-21 13:52 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-21 13:52 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-21 14:04 ` James Bottomley
2010-04-21 14:04 ` James Bottomley
2010-04-21 14:08 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-21 14:08 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-21 14:15 ` James Bottomley
2010-04-21 14:15 ` James Bottomley
2010-04-21 14:13 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-21 14:13 ` Mark Lord
2010-04-21 14:22 ` James Bottomley
2010-04-21 14:22 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1271859728.2893.72.camel-0iu6Cu4xQGLYCGPCin2YbQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-21 14:53 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-21 14:53 ` Alan Stern
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1004211032460.1728-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2010-04-21 23:29 ` Stefan Richter
2010-04-21 23:29 ` Stefan Richter
2010-04-20 17:48 ` Douglas Gilbert
2010-04-20 17:48 ` Douglas Gilbert
2010-04-16 21:31 ` James Bottomley
2010-04-16 21:31 ` James Bottomley
2010-04-16 23:56 ` Douglas Gilbert
2010-04-16 23:56 ` Douglas Gilbert
2010-04-19 15:04 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-19 15:04 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-19 16:02 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-19 16:02 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-19 20:45 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-19 20:45 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-02 17:36 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-02 17:36 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-03-31 16:37 ` David Zeuthen
2010-03-31 16:37 ` David Zeuthen
[not found] ` <1270053444.16657.17.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-31 16:58 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-03-31 16:58 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-03-31 17:03 ` Lennart Poettering
2010-03-31 17:03 ` Lennart Poettering
[not found] ` <20100331165807.GA20547-kS5D54t9nk0aINubkmmoJbNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-31 17:17 ` David Zeuthen
2010-03-31 17:17 ` David Zeuthen
2010-03-31 17:06 ` David Zeuthen
2010-03-31 17:06 ` David Zeuthen
[not found] ` <1270049200.2302.320.camel@laptop>
2010-03-31 15:37 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-03-31 15:37 ` Jonas Schwertfeger
2010-04-21 14:58 ` Luben Tuikov
2010-04-21 14:58 ` Luben Tuikov
2010-04-21 15:09 ` Luben Tuikov
2010-04-21 15:09 ` Luben Tuikov
2010-04-21 16:09 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-21 16:09 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-21 16:18 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-04-21 16:18 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-04-21 17:41 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-21 17:41 ` Sarah Sharp
2010-04-21 18:08 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-21 18:08 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-22 0:08 ` Luben Tuikov
2010-04-22 0:08 ` Luben Tuikov
2010-04-22 14:52 ` Alan Stern
2010-04-22 14:52 ` Alan Stern
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