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From: Takuya Yoshikawa <yoshikawa.takuya@oss.ntt.co.jp>
To: kvm-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:44:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BCD93B2.2040003@oss.ntt.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100420200353.2d2a6dec.yoshikawa.takuya@oss.ntt.co.jp>

(2010/04/20 20:33), Alexander Graf wrote:
>>>>
>>>> -#define KVM_API_VERSION 12
>>>> +#define KVM_API_VERSION 13
>>>
>>> Is there a way to keep both interfaces around for some time at least? I'd prefer the API version not to change if not _really_ necessary.
>>>
>>> To enable the new dirty mapping you could for example use KVM_CAP_ENABLE_CAP :-).
>>
>> Thanks, I did not know what is the appropriate way for this kind of change.
>>
>> I just read the comments in the kvm.h and thought I had to update the number whenever
>> I added some entries to kvm.h .
>
> The rule of thumb is:
>
> KVM_API_VERSION change ->  complete breakage. No way to run older userspace on newer kernels.
> new CAP ->  optional feature
>
> If I read correctly you're changing quite a few existing interfaces, so old userspace wouldn't work anymore. Hence I'm proposing using activating the new way of dirty logging optionally.
>
> Alex
>

The fact is, I am trying to keep the existing interfaces completely(KVM_API_VERSION part is my mistake).

For x86, I have checked that current qemu works without any change.
I mean we can use get_dirty_log() as is.

And as you propose, we can determine which api(swith_* or get_*) we use optionally.

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From: Takuya Yoshikawa <yoshikawa.takuya@oss.ntt.co.jp>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: avi@redhat.com, mtosatti@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm-ia64@vger.kernel.org, kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org,
	fernando@oss.ntt.co.jp
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 11:44:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BCD93B2.2040003@oss.ntt.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <04434D88-5274-43B7-B9B5-A2FE952A6CCE@suse.de>

(2010/04/20 20:33), Alexander Graf wrote:
>>>>
>>>> -#define KVM_API_VERSION 12
>>>> +#define KVM_API_VERSION 13
>>>
>>> Is there a way to keep both interfaces around for some time at least? I'd prefer the API version not to change if not _really_ necessary.
>>>
>>> To enable the new dirty mapping you could for example use KVM_CAP_ENABLE_CAP :-).
>>
>> Thanks, I did not know what is the appropriate way for this kind of change.
>>
>> I just read the comments in the kvm.h and thought I had to update the number whenever
>> I added some entries to kvm.h .
>
> The rule of thumb is:
>
> KVM_API_VERSION change ->  complete breakage. No way to run older userspace on newer kernels.
> new CAP ->  optional feature
>
> If I read correctly you're changing quite a few existing interfaces, so old userspace wouldn't work anymore. Hence I'm proposing using activating the new way of dirty logging optionally.
>
> Alex
>

The fact is, I am trying to keep the existing interfaces completely(KVM_API_VERSION part is my mistake).

For x86, I have checked that current qemu works without any change.
I mean we can use get_dirty_log() as is.

And as you propose, we can determine which api(swith_* or get_*) we use optionally.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Takuya Yoshikawa <yoshikawa.takuya@oss.ntt.co.jp>
To: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Cc: avi@redhat.com, mtosatti@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm-ia64@vger.kernel.org, kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org,
	fernando@oss.ntt.co.jp
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty bitmaps
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:44:50 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BCD93B2.2040003@oss.ntt.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <04434D88-5274-43B7-B9B5-A2FE952A6CCE@suse.de>

(2010/04/20 20:33), Alexander Graf wrote:
>>>>
>>>> -#define KVM_API_VERSION 12
>>>> +#define KVM_API_VERSION 13
>>>
>>> Is there a way to keep both interfaces around for some time at least? I'd prefer the API version not to change if not _really_ necessary.
>>>
>>> To enable the new dirty mapping you could for example use KVM_CAP_ENABLE_CAP :-).
>>
>> Thanks, I did not know what is the appropriate way for this kind of change.
>>
>> I just read the comments in the kvm.h and thought I had to update the number whenever
>> I added some entries to kvm.h .
>
> The rule of thumb is:
>
> KVM_API_VERSION change ->  complete breakage. No way to run older userspace on newer kernels.
> new CAP ->  optional feature
>
> If I read correctly you're changing quite a few existing interfaces, so old userspace wouldn't work anymore. Hence I'm proposing using activating the new way of dirty logging optionally.
>
> Alex
>

The fact is, I am trying to keep the existing interfaces completely(KVM_API_VERSION part is my mistake).

For x86, I have checked that current qemu works without any change.
I mean we can use get_dirty_log() as is.

And as you propose, we can determine which api(swith_* or get_*) we use optionally.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-04-20 11:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 141+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-20 11:03 [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 11:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty bitmaps Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 11:03 ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 11:15 ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty bitmaps Alexander Graf
2010-04-20 11:15   ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-20 11:15   ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-20 11:33 ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-20 11:33   ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-20 11:33   ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-20 11:33 ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 11:33   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty bitmaps Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 11:33   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 11:44 ` Takuya Yoshikawa [this message]
2010-04-20 11:44   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty bitmaps Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 11:44   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-21  8:29 ` 
2010-04-21  8:29   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty bitmaps Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2010-04-21  8:29   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty 
2010-04-21  9:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty bitmaps Alexander Graf
2010-04-21  9:41   ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-21  9:41   ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-21 11:46 ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty Avi Kivity
2010-04-21 11:46   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty bitmaps Avi Kivity
2010-04-21 11:46   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty Avi Kivity
2010-04-22  2:45 ` 
2010-04-22  2:45   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty bitmaps Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2010-04-22  2:45   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty 
2010-04-22  6:09 ` 
2010-04-22  6:09   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty bitmaps Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2010-04-22  6:09   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty 
2010-04-22  9:34 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-22  9:34   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty bitmaps Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-22  9:34   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-22 23:29 ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty bitmaps Alexander Graf
2010-04-22 23:29   ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-22 23:29   ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-23 10:17 ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty 
2010-04-23 10:17   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty bitmaps Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2010-04-23 10:17   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty 
2010-04-23 10:20 ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty bitmaps Alexander Graf
2010-04-23 10:20   ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-23 10:20   ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-23 11:57 ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 11:57   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty bitmaps Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 11:57   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 11:58 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 11:58   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty bitmaps Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 11:58   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 12:26 ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty bitmaps Alexander Graf
2010-04-23 12:26   ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-23 12:26   ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-23 12:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-23 12:27   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-23 12:27   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-23 12:42 ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 12:42   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty bitmaps Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 12:42   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 12:46 ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty bitmaps Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-23 12:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-23 12:46   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-23 12:53 ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 12:53   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty bitmaps Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 12:53   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 12:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty bitmaps Alexander Graf
2010-04-23 12:59   ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-23 12:59   ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-23 13:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-23 13:12   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-23 13:12   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-23 13:20 ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 13:20   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty bitmaps Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 13:20   ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] KVM: introduce a new API for getting dirty Avi Kivity
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-04-20 10:59 [PATCH RFC v2 3/6] KVM: introduce a wrapper function to copy dirty Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 10:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/6] KVM: introduce a wrapper function to copy dirty bitmaps to user space Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 10:59 ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/6] KVM: introduce a wrapper function to copy dirty Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-21 11:12 ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/6] KVM: introduce a wrapper function to copy Avi Kivity
2010-04-21 11:12   ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/6] KVM: introduce a wrapper function to copy dirty bitmaps to user space Avi Kivity
2010-04-21 11:12   ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/6] KVM: introduce a wrapper function to copy Avi Kivity
2010-04-22  8:57 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-22  8:57   ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/6] KVM: introduce a wrapper function to copy dirty bitmaps to user space Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-22  8:57   ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/6] KVM: introduce a wrapper function to copy Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-23 10:26 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 10:26   ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/6] KVM: introduce a wrapper function to copy dirty bitmaps to user space Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 10:26   ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/6] KVM: introduce a wrapper function to copy Avi Kivity
2010-04-20 10:58 [PATCH RFC v2 5/6] KVM: moving dirty bitmaps to user space Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 11:02 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 10:58 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 11:10 ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-20 11:10   ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-20 11:10   ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-20 11:26 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 11:26   ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 11:26   ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-21 11:26 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-21 11:26   ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-21 11:26   ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-22  9:07 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-22  9:07   ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-22  9:07   ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-23 10:28 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 10:28   ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 10:28   ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 11:14 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-23 11:14   ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-23 11:14   ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-23 11:29 ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-04-23 11:29   ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-04-23 11:29   ` Yoshiaki Tamura
2010-04-23 11:45 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 11:45   ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-23 11:45   ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-20 10:57 [PATCH RFC v2 2/6] KVM: introduce wrapper functions to create and Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 10:57 ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/6] KVM: introduce wrapper functions to create and destroy dirty bitmaps Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 10:57 ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/6] KVM: introduce wrapper functions to create and Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 10:57 [PATCH RFC v2 4/6] KVM: change mark_page_dirty() to handle endian Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 11:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 4/6] KVM: change mark_page_dirty() to handle endian issues explicitly Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 10:57 ` [PATCH RFC v2 4/6] KVM: change mark_page_dirty() to handle endian Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 11:00 ` [PATCH RFC v2 4/6] KVM: change mark_page_dirty() to handle endian issues explicitly Alexander Graf
2010-04-20 11:00   ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-20 11:00   ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-20 11:20 ` [PATCH RFC v2 4/6] KVM: change mark_page_dirty() to handle endian Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 11:20   ` [PATCH RFC v2 4/6] KVM: change mark_page_dirty() to handle endian issues explicitly Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 11:20   ` [PATCH RFC v2 4/6] KVM: change mark_page_dirty() to handle endian Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-21 11:15 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-21 11:15   ` [PATCH RFC v2 4/6] KVM: change mark_page_dirty() to handle endian issues explicitly Avi Kivity
2010-04-21 11:15   ` [PATCH RFC v2 4/6] KVM: change mark_page_dirty() to handle endian Avi Kivity
2010-04-20 10:56 [PATCH RFC v2 1/6] KVM: introduce slot level dirty state management Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 10:56 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 10:56 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 10:53 [PATCH RFC v2 0/6] KVM: moving dirty gitmaps to user space! Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 10:53 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 10:53 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 10:54 ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-20 10:54   ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-20 10:54   ` Alexander Graf
2010-04-20 11:13 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 11:13   ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 11:13   ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 12:05 ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 12:05   ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2010-04-20 12:05   ` Takuya Yoshikawa

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