* RTL Languages support
@ 2010-05-13 23:59 Yaron Shahrabani
2010-05-14 0:32 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2010-06-09 20:35 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Yaron Shahrabani @ 2010-05-13 23:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: grub-devel
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Hello everyone
I would like to ask if anyone has any experience with translation of grub to
RTL language
The thing is that if the app lacks of RTL capability we should consider
providing grub in English only for Hebrew users (also Arabic and Persian in
that case)
If nobody is familiar with that issue I will need some help with checking
this out myself, what should I do?
Kind regards,
Yaron Shahrabani
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* Re: RTL Languages support
2010-05-13 23:59 RTL Languages support Yaron Shahrabani
@ 2010-05-14 0:32 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2010-05-14 7:35 ` Yaron Shahrabani
2010-06-09 20:35 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko @ 2010-05-14 0:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: The development of GNU GRUB
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ׂשלום, ירון.
I hope I spelled your name correctly
Yaron Shahrabani wrote:
> Hello everyone
> I would like to ask if anyone has any experience with translation of
> grub to RTL language
>
No such translation has been made yet.
> The thing is that if the app lacks of RTL capability we should
> consider providing grub in English only for Hebrew users (also Arabic
> and Persian in that case)
I implemented RTL support for grub. It's now in experimental branch. And
we need a translation to an RTL language to test the code.
Currently it supports bidi and shaping but not ligatures (they are
tricky). It's enough for Hebrew and Thaana and almost enough for Arabic.
Experimental branch is available at
http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/r/grub/branches/experimental/. Just grab it,
compile and then do the translation and grub should be to put glyphs in
right order. If it doesn't, it's a bug, please report.
Be sure to use gfxterm (insmod vbe; loadfont /unifont.pf2) because VGA
doesn't support any non-ASCII characters.
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2010-01/msg00092.html
>
> If nobody is familiar with that issue I will need some help with
> checking this out myself, what should I do?
>
> Kind regards,
> Yaron Shahrabani
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Grub-devel mailing list
> Grub-devel@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
>
--
Regards
Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
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* Re: RTL Languages support
2010-05-14 0:32 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
@ 2010-05-14 7:35 ` Yaron Shahrabani
2010-05-14 8:52 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Yaron Shahrabani @ 2010-05-14 7:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: The development of GNU GRUB
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2010/5/14 Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko <phcoder@gmail.com>
> ׂשלום, ירון.
>
You spelled it perfectly!
> I hope I spelled your name correctly
> Yaron Shahrabani wrote:
> > Hello everyone
> > I would like to ask if anyone has any experience with translation of
> > grub to RTL language
> >
> No such translation has been made yet.
> > The thing is that if the app lacks of RTL capability we should
> > consider providing grub in English only for Hebrew users (also Arabic
> > and Persian in that case)
> I implemented RTL support for grub. It's now in experimental branch. And
> we need a translation to an RTL language to test the code.
> Currently it supports bidi and shaping but not ligatures (they are
> tricky). It's enough for Hebrew and Thaana and almost enough for Arabic.
> Experimental branch is available at
> http://bzr.savannah.gnu.org/r/grub/branches/experimental/. Just grab it,
> compile and then do the translation and grub should be to put glyphs in
> right order. If it doesn't, it's a bug, please report.
> Be sure to use gfxterm (insmod vbe; loadfont /unifont.pf2) because VGA
> doesn't support any non-ASCII characters.
>
I got into some building problems
I installed flex and bison becuase I didn't have them and tried to build
using "make"
I got the following error:
make: *** No rule to make target `grub_script.tab.h', needed by
`all-local'. Stop.
There were some warning before but I guess they weren't so critical
Do you have any idea what I should do next?
I branched the 1603 revision from savannah
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2010-01/msg00092.html
>
> >
> > If nobody is familiar with that issue I will need some help with
> > checking this out myself, what should I do?
> >
>
> > Kind regards,
> > Yaron Shahrabani
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Grub-devel mailing list
> > Grub-devel@gnu.org
> > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
> >
>
>
> --
> Regards
> Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Grub-devel mailing list
> Grub-devel@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
>
>
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* Re: RTL Languages support
2010-05-14 7:35 ` Yaron Shahrabani
@ 2010-05-14 8:52 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2010-06-14 13:33 ` Yaron Shahrabani
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko @ 2010-05-14 8:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: The development of GNU GRUB
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Yaron Shahrabani wrote:
>
> Be sure to use gfxterm (insmod vbe; loadfont /unifont.pf2) because VGA
> doesn't support any non-ASCII characters.
>
This should have been insmod vbe; loadfont /unifont.pf2; terminal_output
gfxterm
> I got into some building problems
> I installed flex and bison becuase I didn't have them and tried to
> build using "make"
> I got the following error:
> make: *** No rule to make target `grub_script.tab.h', needed by
> `all-local'. Stop.
I've just successfully compiled it. Procedure is:
Cleaning:
bzr clean-tree --ignored
bzr clean-tree
Building:
./autogen.sh
./configure
make
Installing:
sudo make install
sudo grub-install /dev/sda
Be sure to have a LiveCD under the hand when booting experimental grub.
If it still fails can you tell your autotools versions and post complete
build log?
> There were some warning before but I guess they weren't so critical
> Do you have any idea what I should do next?
> I branched the 1603 revision from savannah
>
>
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2010-01/msg00092.html
>
> >
> > If nobody is familiar with that issue I will need some help with
> > checking this out myself, what should I do?
> >
>
> > Kind regards,
> > Yaron Shahrabani
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Grub-devel mailing list
> > Grub-devel@gnu.org <mailto:Grub-devel@gnu.org>
> > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
> >
>
>
> --
> Regards
> Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Grub-devel mailing list
> Grub-devel@gnu.org <mailto:Grub-devel@gnu.org>
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Grub-devel mailing list
> Grub-devel@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
>
--
Regards
Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
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* Re: RTL Languages support
2010-05-14 8:52 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
@ 2010-06-14 13:33 ` Yaron Shahrabani
2010-06-14 13:41 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
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From: Yaron Shahrabani @ 2010-06-14 13:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: The development of GNU GRUB
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I thought It would be a bit easier
The problem is that I can't run a virtual machine on my junk so i'm a little
stuck
I'll check with other Hebrew community members and I'm terribly sorry for
the dealy I caused
Большое спасибо,
Yaron Shahrabani
2010/5/14 Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko <phcoder@gmail.com>
> Yaron Shahrabani wrote:
> >
> > Be sure to use gfxterm (insmod vbe; loadfont /unifont.pf2) because
> VGA
> > doesn't support any non-ASCII characters.
> >
> This should have been insmod vbe; loadfont /unifont.pf2; terminal_output
> gfxterm
> > I got into some building problems
> > I installed flex and bison becuase I didn't have them and tried to
> > build using "make"
> > I got the following error:
> > make: *** No rule to make target `grub_script.tab.h', needed by
> > `all-local'. Stop.
> I've just successfully compiled it. Procedure is:
> Cleaning:
> bzr clean-tree --ignored
> bzr clean-tree
> Building:
> ./autogen.sh
> ./configure
> make
>
> Installing:
> sudo make install
> sudo grub-install /dev/sda
>
> Be sure to have a LiveCD under the hand when booting experimental grub.
> If it still fails can you tell your autotools versions and post complete
> build log?
> > There were some warning before but I guess they weren't so critical
> > Do you have any idea what I should do next?
> > I branched the 1603 revision from savannah
> >
> >
> > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2010-01/msg00092.html
> >
> > >
> > > If nobody is familiar with that issue I will need some help with
> > > checking this out myself, what should I do?
> > >
> >
> > > Kind regards,
> > > Yaron Shahrabani
> > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Grub-devel mailing list
> > > Grub-devel@gnu.org <mailto:Grub-devel@gnu.org>
> > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> > Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Grub-devel mailing list
> > Grub-devel@gnu.org <mailto:Grub-devel@gnu.org>
> > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Grub-devel mailing list
> > Grub-devel@gnu.org
> > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
> >
>
>
> --
> Regards
> Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Grub-devel mailing list
> Grub-devel@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
>
>
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* Re: RTL Languages support
2010-06-14 13:33 ` Yaron Shahrabani
@ 2010-06-14 13:41 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2010-07-03 20:45 ` Yaron Shahrabani
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko @ 2010-06-14 13:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: grub-devel
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On 06/14/2010 03:33 PM, Yaron Shahrabani wrote:
> I thought It would be a bit easier
> The problem is that I can't run a virtual machine on my junk so i'm a
> little stuck
>
Have you tried qemu? I haven't seen a single machine where qemu wouldn't
run. In order to use grub with qemu the easiest way is to:
./grub-mkrescue --output=grub.iso --override-directory=. <extra directories>
qemu -cdrom grub.iso
> I'll check with other Hebrew community members and I'm terribly sorry
> for the dealy I caused
>
> Большое спасибо,
> Yaron Shahrabani
>
> 2010/5/14 Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko <phcoder@gmail.com
> <mailto:phcoder@gmail.com>>
>
> Yaron Shahrabani wrote:
> >
> > Be sure to use gfxterm (insmod vbe; loadfont /unifont.pf2)
> because VGA
> > doesn't support any non-ASCII characters.
> >
> This should have been insmod vbe; loadfont /unifont.pf2;
> terminal_output
> gfxterm
> > I got into some building problems
> > I installed flex and bison becuase I didn't have them and tried to
> > build using "make"
> > I got the following error:
> > make: *** No rule to make target `grub_script.tab.h', needed by
> > `all-local'. Stop.
> I've just successfully compiled it. Procedure is:
> Cleaning:
> bzr clean-tree --ignored
> bzr clean-tree
> Building:
> ./autogen.sh
> ./configure
> make
>
> Installing:
> sudo make install
> sudo grub-install /dev/sda
>
> Be sure to have a LiveCD under the hand when booting experimental
> grub.
> If it still fails can you tell your autotools versions and post
> complete
> build log?
> > There were some warning before but I guess they weren't so critical
> > Do you have any idea what I should do next?
> > I branched the 1603 revision from savannah
> >
> >
> >
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2010-01/msg00092.html
> >
> > >
> > > If nobody is familiar with that issue I will need some
> help with
> > > checking this out myself, what should I do?
> > >
> >
> > > Kind regards,
> > > Yaron Shahrabani
> > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Grub-devel mailing list
> > > Grub-devel@gnu.org <mailto:Grub-devel@gnu.org>
> <mailto:Grub-devel@gnu.org <mailto:Grub-devel@gnu.org>>
> > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> > Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Grub-devel mailing list
> > Grub-devel@gnu.org <mailto:Grub-devel@gnu.org>
> <mailto:Grub-devel@gnu.org <mailto:Grub-devel@gnu.org>>
> > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
> >
> >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Grub-devel mailing list
> > Grub-devel@gnu.org <mailto:Grub-devel@gnu.org>
> > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
> >
>
>
> --
> Regards
> Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Grub-devel mailing list
> Grub-devel@gnu.org <mailto:Grub-devel@gnu.org>
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Grub-devel mailing list
> Grub-devel@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
>
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Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
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* Re: RTL Languages support
2010-06-14 13:41 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
@ 2010-07-03 20:45 ` Yaron Shahrabani
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From: Yaron Shahrabani @ 2010-07-03 20:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: The development of GNU GRUB
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Vladi, I'm glad to say I checked the 1.98 that ships with Ubuntu and found
out that Hebrew is not supported
I can't update my grub since I don't have a virtual machine and I'm a little
affraid I must say, any suggestions?
Yaron Shahrabani
2010/6/14 Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko <phcoder@gmail.com>
> On 06/14/2010 03:33 PM, Yaron Shahrabani wrote:
> > I thought It would be a bit easier
> > The problem is that I can't run a virtual machine on my junk so i'm a
> > little stuck
> >
> Have you tried qemu? I haven't seen a single machine where qemu wouldn't
> run. In order to use grub with qemu the easiest way is to:
> ./grub-mkrescue --output=grub.iso --override-directory=. <extra
> directories>
> qemu -cdrom grub.iso
> > I'll check with other Hebrew community members and I'm terribly sorry
> > for the dealy I caused
> >
> > Большое спасибо,
> > Yaron Shahrabani
> >
> > 2010/5/14 Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko <phcoder@gmail.com
> > <mailto:phcoder@gmail.com>>
> >
> > Yaron Shahrabani wrote:
> > >
> > > Be sure to use gfxterm (insmod vbe; loadfont /unifont.pf2)
> > because VGA
> > > doesn't support any non-ASCII characters.
> > >
> > This should have been insmod vbe; loadfont /unifont.pf2;
> > terminal_output
> > gfxterm
> > > I got into some building problems
> > > I installed flex and bison becuase I didn't have them and tried to
> > > build using "make"
> > > I got the following error:
> > > make: *** No rule to make target `grub_script.tab.h', needed by
> > > `all-local'. Stop.
> > I've just successfully compiled it. Procedure is:
> > Cleaning:
> > bzr clean-tree --ignored
> > bzr clean-tree
> > Building:
> > ./autogen.sh
> > ./configure
> > make
> >
> > Installing:
> > sudo make install
> > sudo grub-install /dev/sda
> >
> > Be sure to have a LiveCD under the hand when booting experimental
> > grub.
> > If it still fails can you tell your autotools versions and post
> > complete
> > build log?
> > > There were some warning before but I guess they weren't so critical
> > > Do you have any idea what I should do next?
> > > I branched the 1603 revision from savannah
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2010-01/msg00092.html
> > >
> > > >
> > > > If nobody is familiar with that issue I will need some
> > help with
> > > > checking this out myself, what should I do?
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Kind regards,
> > > > Yaron Shahrabani
> > > >
> > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Grub-devel mailing list
> > > > Grub-devel@gnu.org <mailto:Grub-devel@gnu.org>
> > <mailto:Grub-devel@gnu.org <mailto:Grub-devel@gnu.org>>
> > > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards
> > > Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Grub-devel mailing list
> > > Grub-devel@gnu.org <mailto:Grub-devel@gnu.org>
> > <mailto:Grub-devel@gnu.org <mailto:Grub-devel@gnu.org>>
> > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Grub-devel mailing list
> > > Grub-devel@gnu.org <mailto:Grub-devel@gnu.org>
> > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> > Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Grub-devel mailing list
> > Grub-devel@gnu.org <mailto:Grub-devel@gnu.org>
> > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Grub-devel mailing list
> > Grub-devel@gnu.org
> > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
> >
>
>
> --
> Regards
> Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Grub-devel mailing list
> Grub-devel@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
>
>
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* Re: RTL Languages support
2010-05-13 23:59 RTL Languages support Yaron Shahrabani
2010-05-14 0:32 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
@ 2010-06-09 20:35 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko @ 2010-06-09 20:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: The development of GNU GRUB; +Cc: Yaron Shahrabani
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Anynews on this one? I would like to advance bidi to mainline soon
On 05/14/2010 01:59 AM, Yaron Shahrabani wrote:
> Hello everyone
> I would like to ask if anyone has any experience with translation of
> grub to RTL language
>
> The thing is that if the app lacks of RTL capability we should
> consider providing grub in English only for Hebrew users (also Arabic
> and Persian in that case)
>
> If nobody is familiar with that issue I will need some help with
> checking this out myself, what should I do?
>
> Kind regards,
> Yaron Shahrabani
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Grub-devel mailing list
> Grub-devel@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
>
--
Regards
Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
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