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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	"Liu >> \"Liu, Jinsong\"" <jinsong.liu@intel.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/7] APIC/IOAPIC cleanup
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:48:18 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C720BA2.9000906@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C7191A7.8030700@codemonkey.ws>

  On 08/23/2010 12:07 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 08/22/2010 02:44 PM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> No more MI diamond and all devices have DeviceStates.  
>>> Coincidentally, it matches more closely how hardware works..
>>>
>>
>>
>> Well, I agree, but I honestly lost the context.  How does this relate 
>> to the APIC and cpu hotplug?
>>
>> I'll take the opportunity to say that we should be using a language 
>> that has first-class (...) support for these concepts instead of 
>> having to divine them from the code.
>
> At the risk of sounding uncool, I think what we really need is a UML 
> diagram describing the device tree.  It's really not that much more 
> difficult to create a similar mess in C++.
>

That's fine near a whiteboard with some airspace for handwaving.  
Doesn't work well through patches and email.

The advantage of better language support is that it's easier to 
resurrect the model from the code; it doesn't give you a better or worse 
model by itself.

-- 
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-23  6:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-12 21:14 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/7] APIC/IOAPIC cleanup Blue Swirl
2010-06-13 16:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2010-06-13 17:03   ` Andreas Färber
2010-06-13 17:53     ` Blue Swirl
2010-06-13 18:17       ` Andreas Färber
2010-06-13 17:49   ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-19 19:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-08-19 20:09   ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-19 20:49     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-19 21:21       ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-19 21:51         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-19 22:52           ` malc
2010-08-20  1:01             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-20 10:00               ` malc
2010-08-20  8:42           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-08-20 17:01           ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2010-08-20 18:38             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-22 20:28               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-22 21:02                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-23  5:46                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-23 13:23                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-23 13:42                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-23 13:48                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-23 14:00                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-23 14:26                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-23 14:32                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-23 14:47                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-23 15:10                                   ` Markus Armbruster
2010-08-23 16:05                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-23 17:36                                       ` Markus Armbruster
2010-08-23 17:47                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-23 18:24                                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2010-08-23 18:29                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-23 15:14                                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-08-23 16:02                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24  9:51                                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-20 19:26           ` Blue Swirl
2010-08-20 10:35       ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2010-08-22  9:37       ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-08-22 18:52         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-22 19:44           ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-22 20:03             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-22 20:33               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-22 21:06                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-23  5:49                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-23  9:09                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2010-08-23  9:25                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-23 10:11                         ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-23 10:15                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-23 10:18                             ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-23 10:25                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-22 21:07             ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-08-23  5:48               ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-08-22  9:13   ` Avi Kivity

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