From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
stefanha@gmail.com, mjt@tls.msk.ru, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
hch@lst.de
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC][STABLE 0.13] Revert "qcow2: Use bdrv_(p)write_sync for metadata writes"
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 10:14:59 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C74C2F3.9050506@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C73CF8D.5060405@codemonkey.ws>
On 08/24/2010 04:56 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> One doesn't follow from the other (though I'm no fan of internal
>> snapshots, myself).
>
>
> It does. Let's consider the failure scenarios:
>
> 1) guest submits write request
> 2) allocate extent
> 3) write data to disk (a)
> 4) write (a) completes
> 5) update reference count table for new extent (b)
> 6) write (b) completes
> 7) write extent table (c)
> 8) write (c) completes
> 9) complete guest write request
>
> If this all happened in order and we lost power, the worst case error
> is that we leak a block which isn't terrible.
>
> But we're not guaranteed that this happens in order.
>
> If (b) or (c) happen before (a), then the image is not corrupted but
> data gets lost. That's okay because it's part of the guest contract.
>
> If (c) happens before (b), then we've created an extent that's
> attached to a table with a zero reference count. This is a corrupt
> image.
>
If the only issue is new block allocation, it can be easily solved.
Instead of allocating exactly the needed amount of blocks, allocate a
large extent and hold them in memory. The next allocation can then be
filled from memory, so the allocation sync is amortized over many
blocks. A power fail will leak the preallocated blocks, losing some
megabytes of address space, but not real disk space.
> Let's consider if we eliminate the reference count table which means
> eliminating internal snapshots.
>
> 1) guest submits write request
> 2) allocate extent
> 3) write data to disk (a)
> 4) write (a) completes
> 5) write extent table (c)
> 6) write (c) completes
> 7) complete guest write request
>
> If this all happens in order and we lose power, we just leak a block.
> It means we need a periodic fsck.
>
> If (c) completes before (a), then it means that the image is not
> corrupted but data gets lost. This is okay based on the guest contract.
>
> And that's it. There is no scenario where the disk is corrupted.
_if_ that's the only failure mode.
--
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-25 7:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-24 10:40 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][STABLE 0.13] Revert "qcow2: Use bdrv_(p)write_sync for metadata writes" Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 11:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-08-24 11:06 ` Michael Tokarev
2010-08-24 11:40 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 11:56 ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-24 12:10 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 12:12 ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-24 12:18 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 12:21 ` Alexander Graf
2010-08-24 12:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 12:35 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 12:39 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 12:53 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 12:21 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-08-24 12:23 ` Michael Tokarev
2010-08-24 12:48 ` Juan Quintela
2010-08-24 13:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:16 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-08-24 13:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:31 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 13:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:39 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 13:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-24 13:44 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-24 13:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 7:14 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-08-25 12:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 13:07 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 13:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 13:23 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 13:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 14:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:36 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 15:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 15:15 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 15:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 13:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:03 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 14:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-25 14:37 ` Avi Kivity
2010-08-25 14:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-25 14:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-08-25 14:49 ` Daniel P. Berrange
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