From: Albert ARIBAUD <albert.aribaud@free.fr>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] ARM relocation, question to Heiko
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2010 17:52:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CA9F83A.6030000@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CA9F294.8080007@comcast.net>
Le 04/10/2010 17:28, J. William Campbell a ?crit :
> On 10/4/2010 3:13 AM, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
>> Dear Albert ARIBAUD,
>>
>> In message<4CA999EE.5030309@free.fr> you wrote:
>>> Note however that linking for base address 0 is not mandatory for
>>> achieving true position independence. What is required is that the code
>>> which runs from power-up until relocation be able to run anywhere, i.e.,
>>> this code should not require any relocation fixup. That can be achieved
>>> on ARM by using only relative branches and accessing data only relative
>>> to pc (e.g. literals) or truly absolute (e.g. HW registers etc).
>> That means you need to build all of U-Boot that way, because
>> significant parts of the code already run before relocation
>> (including all clocks and timers setup, console setup, printf and all
>> routines these pull in).
>>
> Yes, I think Wolfgang is correct. This is not going to be easy to do in
> general. To run anywhere, the code must be true Position Independent
> code. If you intend to use any C code in the initialization, this will
> result in needing -fPIC for at least that code. I am not sure you can
> mix -fPIC and non -fPIC code in the same link, but I expect not. I am a
> bit surprised that it is possible to get even the initialization code to
> be Position Independent, but it appears that on at least some PPC it is
> possible/has been done.
I'm not entirely sure about -fPIC, but it is possible indeed that true
position independence might need it. For the moment, I'll settle for ELF
relocatable. :)
> On a related topic, I did find some information on the -mrelocatable
> history. Take a look at
> http://www.mail-archive.com/gcc at gcc.gnu.org/msg02528.html.
> If you read both thread entries, it explains -mrelocatable as more or
> less the post-processor that re-formats the ELF relocation information
> into a smaller format and puts it in the text as another segment. What
> Albert is doing now, and Graeme did before, is the first option,
> creating a loader that understands ELF. This has the advantage that it
> will work on all architectures. However, once this understanding is in
> place, it would be easy to write a small post-processing program that
> would reduce the size of the relocation entries, much like -mrelocatable
> does. This may or may not be necessary, but it is certainly possible.
>
> Best Regards,
> Bill Campbell
Thanks Bill. I'll look into it once I get the current issues resolved;
however it seems GOT-related, and -pie is not GOT-based -- and unlike
GOT, -pie handles pointers in data, for instance, removing the need for
manual fixups.
Amicalement,
--
Albert.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-04 15:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-30 13:57 [U-Boot] ARM relocation, probably trivial mistake Reinhard Meyer
2010-09-30 14:08 ` Stefano Babic
2010-09-30 14:20 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-09-30 15:39 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-09-30 16:06 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-09-30 15:38 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-09-30 17:43 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-01 5:25 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-10-01 5:40 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-01 5:53 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-10-01 6:39 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-01 6:57 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-10-01 8:45 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-01 7:01 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-01 7:42 ` [U-Boot] ARM relocation, probably trivial mistake - back to original problem Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-01 8:27 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-10-01 10:44 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-01 10:55 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-01 11:03 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-01 11:21 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-01 11:37 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-01 11:59 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-01 12:22 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-01 12:47 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-01 12:55 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-01 14:55 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-02 8:53 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-10-01 15:47 ` Steve Sakoman
2010-10-02 7:15 ` [U-Boot] ARM relocation, question to Heiko Reinhard Meyer
[not found] ` <4CA6E517.9040701@fr<1286167382.22760.19.camel@ptyser-laptop>
2010-10-02 7:53 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-02 8:10 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-02 8:26 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-03 18:04 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-02 9:08 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-10-02 9:29 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-03 18:05 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-02 10:17 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-02 16:21 ` J. William Campbell
2010-10-02 18:33 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-03 18:22 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-02 20:39 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-02 21:09 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-02 23:07 ` Graeme Russ
2010-10-03 7:10 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-03 8:44 ` Graeme Russ
2010-10-03 8:58 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-03 15:36 ` J. William Campbell
2010-10-03 16:47 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-03 17:54 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-03 18:43 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-04 5:41 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-10-03 18:29 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-03 19:26 ` J. William Campbell
2010-10-04 5:52 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-10-03 18:14 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-03 18:54 ` J. William Campbell
2010-10-03 19:52 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-03 18:03 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-03 18:34 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-03 18:45 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-04 6:08 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-10-04 6:40 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-04 7:27 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-04 8:28 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-04 8:57 ` Heiko Schocher
2010-10-04 9:27 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-04 10:01 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-04 9:58 ` Graeme Russ
2010-10-04 14:17 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-04 14:25 ` Rogan Dawes
2010-10-04 15:24 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-04 16:31 ` Stefan Roese
2010-10-04 21:31 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-04 7:44 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-04 4:43 ` Peter Tyser
2010-10-04 6:08 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-04 7:36 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-04 8:08 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-04 8:28 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-04 8:33 ` Albert ARIBAUD
[not found] ` <OF05779DA1.EF3C4954-ONC12577B2.00307A0D-C12577B2.0030B9C0@tran <4CAA1613.80002@comcast.net>
2010-10-04 8:52 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-04 9:10 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2010-10-04 10:13 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-04 15:28 ` J. William Campbell
2010-10-04 15:52 ` Albert ARIBAUD [this message]
2010-10-04 17:06 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-04 17:59 ` J. William Campbell
2010-10-04 18:43 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-04 21:10 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-05 7:26 ` Joakim Tjernlund
2010-10-04 17:04 ` Graeme Russ
2010-10-04 17:14 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-04 8:27 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-02 8:49 ` [U-Boot] ARM relocation, probably trivial mistake - back to original problem Heiko Schocher
2010-10-01 12:49 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-01 14:48 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-04 7:44 ` [U-Boot] AT91 clock and timer cleanups (was: ARM relocation, probably trivial mistake - back to original problem) Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-04 8:32 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-04 8:42 ` [U-Boot] AT91 clock and timer cleanups Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-04 8:49 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-04 8:52 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-04 9:03 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-04 9:12 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-04 14:58 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-04 17:00 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-04 17:15 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-04 17:32 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-04 19:22 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-01 8:48 ` [U-Boot] ARM relocation, probably trivial mistake - back to original problem Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-01 9:50 ` Reinhard Meyer
2010-10-01 8:03 ` [U-Boot] ARM relocation, probably trivial mistake Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-01 7:51 ` Wolfgang Denk
2010-10-01 8:28 ` Heiko Schocher
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