From: Paul Nowoczynski <pauln@psc.edu>
To: lustre-devel@lists.lustre.org
Subject: [Lustre-devel] Queries regarding LDLM_ENQUEUE
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 11:16:59 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CBF07EB.3090001@psc.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101020145556.GR1635@oracle.com>
Yes! I think I was at this HEC meeting a few years ago?? :)
Here are the pointers to the manpages if anyone else is interested.
http://www.opengroup.org/platform/hecewg/
So my question wasn't so much about the interface which is why I posed a
scenario based on MPI. But rather, how feasible is it to import the
necessary state the from the client issuing openg() to the rest?
paul
Nicolas Williams wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:51:06AM -0400, Paul Nowoczynski wrote:
>
>> Eric makes a good point in that only parallel jobs really need this
>> feature. Unfortunately, at scale the system (both clients and servers)
>> *really do* need something like this, especially if we continue pushing
>> users to perform N-1 file I/O instead of 'file per process'. I too am in
>> agreement that some sort of capability mechanism is the best approach. I
>> wonder if this is something that could be done outside of POSIX and
>> supported through a parallel I/O library? Perhaps a single application
>> threads could make a special open call (/proc magic perhaps?) and obtain
>> the glob of opaque bytes which are then broadcast to the rest of the
>> client via mpi. Traversing the namespace would be avoided on all but one
>> client. In such a scenario I don't feel that enforcing unix permissions
>> at every level of the path is needed or sensible, the operation should
>> be treated as a simple logical open. The question to the lustre experts
>> - can enough state be packed into an opaque object such that the
>> recv'ing client can construct the necessary cache state?
>>
>
> POSIX already has what you're asking for, and it's called openg() ;)
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-20 15:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-10-18 23:33 [Lustre-devel] Queries regarding LDLM_ENQUEUE Vilobh Meshram
2010-10-19 15:46 ` Fan Yong
2010-10-19 20:28 ` Vilobh Meshram
2010-10-19 22:53 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-20 2:04 ` Vilobh Meshram
2010-10-20 7:55 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-20 8:11 ` bzzz.tomas at gmail.com
2010-10-20 8:24 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-20 8:30 ` bzzz.tomas at gmail.com
2010-10-20 8:38 ` Nikita Danilov
2010-10-20 14:45 ` Nicolas Williams
2010-10-20 13:30 ` Eric Barton
2010-10-20 13:40 ` bzzz.tomas at gmail.com
2010-10-20 14:51 ` Paul Nowoczynski
2010-10-20 14:55 ` Nicolas Williams
2010-10-20 15:16 ` Paul Nowoczynski [this message]
2010-10-20 16:07 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-20 15:22 ` bzzz.tomas at gmail.com
2010-10-20 16:43 ` Paul Nowoczynski
2010-10-20 16:49 ` bzzz.tomas at gmail.com
2010-10-20 17:11 ` Paul Nowoczynski
2010-10-20 17:18 ` bzzz.tomas at gmail.com
2010-10-20 17:25 ` Paul Nowoczynski
2010-10-20 17:27 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-20 17:29 ` Nicolas Williams
2010-10-20 17:40 ` bzzz.tomas at gmail.com
2010-10-20 18:01 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-20 18:09 ` bzzz.tomas at gmail.com
2010-10-20 16:35 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-20 16:46 ` Paul Nowoczynski
2010-10-20 17:00 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-20 17:13 ` Nicolas Williams
2010-10-20 17:30 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-20 17:01 ` Nicolas Williams
2010-10-22 2:33 ` Vilobh Meshram
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