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From: Paul Nowoczynski <pauln@psc.edu>
To: lustre-devel@lists.lustre.org
Subject: [Lustre-devel] Queries regarding LDLM_ENQUEUE
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 13:25:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CBF25FB.5030708@psc.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CBF2483.7030805@gmail.com>

have a look at this, it explains the type of problem networks have in 
dealing with these communication patterns. 
http://www.pdl.cmu.edu/Incast/

and yes, a proxy is a workable solution, and probably the most well 
rounded.  The disadvantages  is that it would presumably require more 
engineering to deploy.
p



bzzz.tomas at gmail.com wrote:
> On 10/20/10 9:11 PM, Paul Nowoczynski wrote:
>   
>> I could be wrong but my guess is that the network congestion caused by
>> this communication pattern is a more serious problem. The mds should be
>> able to easily service lookup rpc's since only the first few necessitate
>> a read I/O from the disk.
>>     
>
> but then the network should be able to deal with storm of
> <max RPC in-flight> * <# clients> to read/write data?
>
> or it's a specific switch being the bottleneck to specific node?
>
> because if it isn't network, but MDS being a real bottleneck,
> then proxy might be a solution like Eric said above. not sure
> is this important in your case, but this would allow to use
> existing apps.
>
> of course, distribution tree for a handle may scale better.
>
> thanks, z
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-20 17:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-18 23:33 [Lustre-devel] Queries regarding LDLM_ENQUEUE Vilobh Meshram
2010-10-19 15:46 ` Fan Yong
2010-10-19 20:28 ` Vilobh Meshram
2010-10-19 22:53   ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-20  2:04     ` Vilobh Meshram
2010-10-20  7:55       ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-20  8:11         ` bzzz.tomas at gmail.com
2010-10-20  8:24           ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-20  8:30             ` bzzz.tomas at gmail.com
2010-10-20  8:38               ` Nikita Danilov
2010-10-20 14:45                 ` Nicolas Williams
2010-10-20 13:30               ` Eric Barton
2010-10-20 13:40                 ` bzzz.tomas at gmail.com
2010-10-20 14:51                 ` Paul Nowoczynski
2010-10-20 14:55                   ` Nicolas Williams
2010-10-20 15:16                     ` Paul Nowoczynski
2010-10-20 16:07                       ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-20 15:22                   ` bzzz.tomas at gmail.com
2010-10-20 16:43                     ` Paul Nowoczynski
2010-10-20 16:49                       ` bzzz.tomas at gmail.com
2010-10-20 17:11                         ` Paul Nowoczynski
2010-10-20 17:18                           ` bzzz.tomas at gmail.com
2010-10-20 17:25                             ` Paul Nowoczynski [this message]
2010-10-20 17:27                             ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-20 17:29                             ` Nicolas Williams
2010-10-20 17:40                               ` bzzz.tomas at gmail.com
2010-10-20 18:01                                 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-20 18:09                                   ` bzzz.tomas at gmail.com
2010-10-20 16:35                 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-20 16:46                   ` Paul Nowoczynski
2010-10-20 17:00                     ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-20 17:13                       ` Nicolas Williams
2010-10-20 17:30                         ` Andreas Dilger
2010-10-20 17:01                     ` Nicolas Williams
2010-10-22  2:33         ` Vilobh Meshram

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