From: Alexey Gladkov <gladkov.alexey@gmail.com>
To: Ted Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Microcai <microcai@fedoraproject.org>,
Lisa Milne <lisa@ltmnet.com>,
"jonsmirl@gmail.com" <jonsmirl@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-console@v
Subject: Re: VT console need rewrite
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 04:55:39 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CF3081B.9090307@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101128194624.GP2767@thunk.org>
28.11.2010 22:46, Ted Ts'o wrote:
> How many people do regular login, development, reading e-mail, etc.,
> on the console? Very few!
Once I broke the euro symbol in the kbd keymaps and got a kick in the
ass very quickly :). It means that users continue to use the console
quite active.
Another example: I keep getting a new keymaps and console fonts for
each new kbd release.
Maybe not a lot of console users, but more of them than you think.
> If the answer is because you hate X, as
> you've already pointed out, we already have fbterm. Where is it
> written that we need to have a full unicode-capable console system?
fbterm ‎can't help in all cases. For example: we have a limitation
NR_KEYS, which makes it impossible to use keycode > 256 in keymaps.
I've already received several complaints about it.
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Rgrds, legion
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From: Alexey Gladkov <gladkov.alexey@gmail.com>
To: "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>, Microcai <microcai@fedoraproject.org>,
Lisa Milne <lisa@ltmnet.com>,
"jonsmirl@gmail.com" <jonsmirl@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-console@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: VT console need rewrite
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 04:55:39 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CF3081B.9090307@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101128194624.GP2767@thunk.org>
28.11.2010 22:46, Ted Ts'o wrote:
> How many people do regular login, development, reading e-mail, etc.,
> on the console? Very few!
Once I broke the euro symbol in the kbd keymaps and got a kick in the
ass very quickly :). It means that users continue to use the console
quite active.
Another example: I keep getting a new keymaps and console fonts for
each new kbd release.
Maybe not a lot of console users, but more of them than you think.
> If the answer is because you hate X, as
> you've already pointed out, we already have fbterm. Where is it
> written that we need to have a full unicode-capable console system?
fbterm can't help in all cases. For example: we have a limitation
NR_KEYS, which makes it impossible to use keycode > 256 in keymaps.
I've already received several complaints about it.
--
Rgrds, legion
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-29 1:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-28 10:57 VT console need rewrite Microcai
2010-11-28 13:24 ` Theodore Tso
2010-11-28 13:42 ` Microcai
2010-11-28 13:42 ` Microcai
2010-11-28 14:05 ` jonsmirl
2010-11-28 14:05 ` jonsmirl
2010-11-28 14:29 ` Microcai
2010-11-28 14:29 ` Microcai
2010-11-28 14:49 ` jonsmirl
2010-11-28 14:49 ` jonsmirl
2010-11-28 19:11 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-29 1:10 ` Microcai
2010-11-29 1:10 ` Microcai
2010-11-29 2:49 ` Américo Wang
2010-11-29 2:49 ` Américo Wang
2010-11-29 2:48 ` Microcai
2010-11-29 2:48 ` Microcai
2010-11-29 8:16 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-29 8:16 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-29 8:20 ` microcai
2010-11-29 8:20 ` microcai
2010-11-29 8:27 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-29 8:53 ` Microcai
2010-11-29 8:53 ` Microcai
2010-11-29 8:59 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-29 8:59 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-28 16:06 ` Lisa Milne
2010-11-28 16:20 ` Microcai
2010-11-28 19:46 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-29 1:14 ` Microcai
2010-11-29 1:14 ` Microcai
2010-11-29 8:58 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-29 8:58 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-29 9:32 ` Microcai
2010-11-29 9:32 ` Microcai
2010-11-29 9:58 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-29 10:11 ` Microcai
2010-11-29 10:11 ` Microcai
2010-11-29 10:17 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-29 10:40 ` Microcai
2010-11-29 10:40 ` Microcai
2010-11-29 10:39 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-29 10:39 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-12-15 14:45 ` Pavel Machek
2010-12-15 14:45 ` Pavel Machek
2010-12-15 15:04 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-12-15 15:04 ` Samuel Thibault
2010-11-29 1:55 ` Alexey Gladkov [this message]
2010-11-29 1:55 ` Alexey Gladkov
2010-11-29 2:14 ` Microcai
2010-11-29 14:02 ` Alan Cox
2010-11-29 17:50 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-11-29 21:23 ` Jerome Glisse
2010-11-29 21:23 ` Jerome Glisse
2010-11-28 23:46 ` Alan Cox
2010-11-29 1:28 ` Microcai
2010-11-29 1:28 ` Microcai
2010-11-29 14:07 ` Alan Cox
2010-11-30 5:05 ` microcai
2010-12-20 6:35 ` Pavel Machek
2010-11-29 10:01 ` Andi Kleen
2010-11-29 10:12 ` Microcai
2010-11-29 10:12 ` Microcai
2010-12-07 20:37 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-12-13 7:13 ` Pavel Machek
2010-12-13 10:18 ` Alan Cox
2010-12-15 14:40 ` Pavel Machek
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