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From: Sergei Shtylyov <sshtylyov@mvista.com>
To: Felipe Balbi <me@felipebalbi.com>
Cc: balbi@ti.com, "Gupta, Ajay Kumar" <ajay.gupta@ti.com>,
	"davinci-linux-open-source@linux.davincidsp.com"
	<davinci-linux-open-source@linux.davincidsp.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	"linux-omap@vger.kernel.org" <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/3] ARM: add CPPI 4.1 DMA support
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 19:37:47 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D234CDB.60200@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1294149984.1822.9.camel@eowin>

Hello.

Felipe Balbi wrote:

>>>> I think we will get more clarity once we start on this activity.

>>> I agree, but I personally don't see that many limiting factors.
>>> dmaengine is just a generic API for doing DMA transfers. If it's not
>>> enough for us currently, we extend it.

>>     Putting MUSB DMA enignes into drivers/dma/ is the same as taking *any* 
>> chip capable of bus-mastering DMA, "separating" its bus mastering related code 
>> from its driver and putting this code into drivers/dma/. This doesn't make 
>> sense, in my opinion. drivers/dma/ is for the dedicated DMA controllers (which 
>> can *optionally* serve the slave devices).

> Do I really have to spell it out ? Really ?

    Yes, I'm dense. :-)
    Especially after Ajay claiming that Mentor and CPPI 3.0 DMA will be moved to 
drivers/dma/...

> You don't need to physically move the part of the code to drivers/dma,
> but it has to use the API. The mentor DMA is internal to MUSB.
> tusb6010_omap.c isn't.

    Yes, that's what I've already noted in this thread.

> Where it makes sense to move the code under drivers/dma, it will be

    Surely OMAP DMA needs to be moved under drivers/dma/, not the TUSB code
interfacing it.

> done, where it doesn't, it won't be done, but it will use the same API.
> That's all.

    I don't quite see how DMA engine API is beneficial to what we currently have...

> The end goal is just to drop all these ad-hoc "APIs" for accessing DMA
> on musb code.

    The "ad-hoc" API is well suited for use with MUSB, while DMA engine API is 
more abstract, I think. The "ad-hoc" API takes into account some things that the 
DMA engine API just can't -- like the transfer mode and packet size...

WBR, Sergei

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From: sshtylyov@mvista.com (Sergei Shtylyov)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v5 1/3] ARM: add CPPI 4.1 DMA support
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 19:37:47 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D234CDB.60200@mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1294149984.1822.9.camel@eowin>

Hello.

Felipe Balbi wrote:

>>>> I think we will get more clarity once we start on this activity.

>>> I agree, but I personally don't see that many limiting factors.
>>> dmaengine is just a generic API for doing DMA transfers. If it's not
>>> enough for us currently, we extend it.

>>     Putting MUSB DMA enignes into drivers/dma/ is the same as taking *any* 
>> chip capable of bus-mastering DMA, "separating" its bus mastering related code 
>> from its driver and putting this code into drivers/dma/. This doesn't make 
>> sense, in my opinion. drivers/dma/ is for the dedicated DMA controllers (which 
>> can *optionally* serve the slave devices).

> Do I really have to spell it out ? Really ?

    Yes, I'm dense. :-)
    Especially after Ajay claiming that Mentor and CPPI 3.0 DMA will be moved to 
drivers/dma/...

> You don't need to physically move the part of the code to drivers/dma,
> but it has to use the API. The mentor DMA is internal to MUSB.
> tusb6010_omap.c isn't.

    Yes, that's what I've already noted in this thread.

> Where it makes sense to move the code under drivers/dma, it will be

    Surely OMAP DMA needs to be moved under drivers/dma/, not the TUSB code
interfacing it.

> done, where it doesn't, it won't be done, but it will use the same API.
> That's all.

    I don't quite see how DMA engine API is beneficial to what we currently have...

> The end goal is just to drop all these ad-hoc "APIs" for accessing DMA
> on musb code.

    The "ad-hoc" API is well suited for use with MUSB, while DMA engine API is 
more abstract, I think. The "ad-hoc" API takes into account some things that the 
DMA engine API just can't -- like the transfer mode and packet size...

WBR, Sergei

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-01-04 16:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-15 18:14 [PATCH v5 1/3] ARM: add CPPI 4.1 DMA support Sergei Shtylyov
2010-05-28 20:55 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2010-09-28  9:13 ` Linus Walleij
2010-09-28  9:13   ` Linus Walleij
2010-09-28 10:13   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2010-09-28 10:13     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-01-03 16:06 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-01-03 16:34   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-03 16:34     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-03 17:01     ` Gupta, Ajay Kumar
2011-01-03 17:01       ` Gupta, Ajay Kumar
2011-01-03 17:07       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-01-03 17:07         ` Sergei Shtylyov
     [not found]         ` <4D220246.5020303-Igf4POYTYCDQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-01-03 17:15           ` Gupta, Ajay Kumar
2011-01-03 17:15             ` Gupta, Ajay Kumar
2011-01-03 20:44             ` Felipe Balbi
2011-01-03 20:44               ` Felipe Balbi
2011-01-04 13:06               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-01-04 13:06                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-01-04 14:06                 ` Felipe Balbi
2011-01-04 14:06                   ` Felipe Balbi
2011-01-04 14:40                   ` Ming Lei
2011-01-04 14:40                     ` Ming Lei
2011-01-04 14:56                     ` Felipe Balbi
2011-01-04 14:56                       ` Felipe Balbi
2011-01-04 15:41                       ` Ming Lei
2011-01-04 15:41                         ` Ming Lei
2011-01-04 18:42                         ` Felipe Balbi
2011-01-04 18:42                           ` Felipe Balbi
2011-01-04 18:50                           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-01-04 18:50                             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-01-04 16:37                   ` Sergei Shtylyov [this message]
2011-01-04 16:37                     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-01-05 22:03                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-05 22:03                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-03 17:19         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-03 17:19           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-03 20:49           ` Felipe Balbi
2011-01-03 20:49             ` Felipe Balbi
2011-01-04 19:12             ` Tony Lindgren
2011-01-04 19:12               ` Tony Lindgren

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